and young people being bullied online. ofcom is set to get tough introducing new age restrictions to use social media. >> prince harry is back in the uk to celebrate ten years of his invictus games charity today . invictus games charity today. but why has he been snubbed by the king? >> and the uk warns israel over the risk of war crimes in rafah? as unicef says, 600,000 children face catastrophe in the region , face catastrophe in the region, plus chaos at our airports. >> as a nationwide e—gate glitch left tens of thousands stranded in terminals. left tens of thousands stranded in terminals . we want to hear in terminals. we want to hear from you this morning. if you were affected, let us know. get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay >> and as more details of the ministry of defence hacker revealed , should we be getting revealed, should we be getting tougher on china and the sport this morning? >> borussia dortmund beat paris saint—germain again to reach the champions league final, where they will play either bayern munich or real madrid , who are munich or real madrid, who are currently at two all. and they

play currently at two all. and they play tonight. nottingham forest have lost their appeal against their points deduction and finally erik ten hag. is he a dead man walking? >> good morning. another day of sunny and bright weather for many of us. but will that sunshine last until tomorrow? you can find all the details with me a little later. you can find all the details with me a little later . on. with me a little later. on. >> a very good morning to you. our top story today , the our top story today, the regulator ofcom has unveiled new age restrictions for online social media use in a bid to keep children safer online. varne. >> yes, so social media firms will be required to introduce robust checks, including the use of photo id such as passports, to identify children using their sites and applications, and it comes today as internet safety charity internet matters has revealed i in 7 teens have experienced online nude sharing abuse. political editor for huffpost uk, kevin schofield joins us now. good morning

kevin. thanks for joining joins us now. good morning kevin. thanks forjoining us. so children i mean i've always argued that it should be adults who shouldn't be using social media, let alone kids, and actually quite shocking statistics from ofcom claim that more than half of 7 to 12 year olds have used applications such as tiktok or instagram using fake data dates of birth, so this will be stopped under this new online safety bill well, certainly. >> hopefully it will be stopped . >> hopefully it will be stopped. certainly. that's the ambition. i think it's very important that we do protect children as much as possible online and or personally. and i've got a couple of kids and, you know, they are fascinated by social media and, and online and you have to work very hard actually to protect them. so any help i think that parents can get from the tech companies themselves and would be much appreciated. but yeah, absolutely understand why ofcom have taken this, this action we've seen some tragic incidents, obviously, of young people, who have been using social media, who have tragically lost their lives. so,

so yeah, it's clear there's a real political momentum behind this as well. people want to see action taken and they want to see the tech giants take this very seriously indeed. yes but is this going to work? >> and i suppose the question is, are they requiring kids to now provide id from the age of 13, in to order use social media? there's always been this concern that they'll be able to get hold of fake id, they'll be workarounds, the system and also if they are, you know, able to prove that the tech companies haven't fulfilled their part of the bargain. how much gravitas is how much power does ofcom really have? i mean, they're talking about 10% of global profits for these organisations, but is that really going to happen? little lowly ofcom versus tiktok in china? >> well, absolutely. you know meta as well. hugely powerful, corporate lie—ins, who obviously have their own bottom line that they want to protect as much as possible, so yeah , we have to possible, so yeah, we have to hope, obviously, that ofcom, have the powers to back this up, the thing as well is you know,

kids are very, inventive when it comes to trying to work their way around rules when it comes to id , so you really have to to id, so you really have to hope that these measures are robust enough to ensure that the children can, as i say, work round the rules as they are put in place. but obviously parents have a responsibility as well to try and make sure that their kids are not seeing stuff online, that they that they shouldn't be. but it's a constant battle. and obviously the hope is that these measures that ofcom will bring in will finally tilt the balance in favour of parents and child safety. >> yeah, kevin , one of the main >> yeah, kevin, one of the main aspects of the new bill is the ability for children not to be added to groups without their consent, for example, on whatsapp or on snapchat, because there has been concern in recent times where kids are unwittingly added to groups of 100, 200, maybe even more people, and viewing unwittingly , you know, viewing unwittingly, you know, pornography, racist content that surely is something that, parents would support . parents would support. >> well, without a doubt. i

mean, i mean, the, the technology is moving at such a fast pace constantly . they're fast pace constantly. they're trying to try to keep ahead of it as as a parent is virtually possible. so you need to try and, lean on these tech companies to try and make sure that they are putting measures in place themselves to ensure that children are not seeing inappropriate content as i say, this is a huge political issue. now. parents are demanding action, and it's up to politicians and the regulator to come up with measures which will keep our children safe. >> okay, kevin schofield, thanks very much indeed for filling us in on that story. if you're affected by this, let us know. we're both parents, aren't we, ben, do you let your kids on the app? they certainly don't have social media yet. they're only eight and six and a half. but it's something that i really, really care about, whether or not that they're going to have their own smartphones. i've actually sort of doing my own little low level campaign amongst my own friends and parents to try and change the law so that kids can't get their hands on smartphones until they're 16. to prevent any of this, you know, i think this is

a one step in the right direction, but i think we've got a long way to go. >> still, mine definitely don't. but my only concern is if you hold them back too much technologically, are they going to be left behind with their peers? >> well, that's why i think it needs to be a uniform thing. i think there's too much pressure on the parents to kind of, you know, bay to the crowd. i think if all parents were in the same position, all schools supported it. i think it could be a really positive thing, not least because of all the evidence that we're seeing about their brains just are not mentally capable of deaung just are not mentally capable of dealing and processing with a lot of the content that you were just describing. certainly, you know, pre—puberty or under 16, i'll say again, i mentioned it just there. >> i don't think the vast majority of adults should be looking at grey. they call it doomscrolling when you're just aimlessly and inanely flicking through instagram, seeing all this content, which is, you know, arguably turning your brain to mush. >> so what do you do? yes. well then then i it's funny because i then then i it's funny because i then sort of flipped the argument and say, look, i can see the positives to instagram and social media because i think of all the life hacks that i've picked up through doing it or the i mean, i'm personally completely obsessed by interiors. i get so much inspiration from all the

interior content that i follow on there. so there are positives to it. it doesn't necessarily have to rot your brain as long as you have a bit of self—control, but i think for kids who can't regulate themselves, it's the algorithm they need help sort the algorithm, right? has the king sorted out the algorithm? he is denying access for his son, prince harry, who's in the uk. he said he will not meet up whilst he's here to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the invictus games. >> yes, harry landed in london yesterday ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games launched. however, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news it's unfortunately not possible due to his majesty's fall programme, adding that the prince's quote, understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> well, let's speak to showbiz and royal reporter kinsey schofield. good morning to you, kinsey . i schofield. good morning to you, kinsey. i mean, schofield. good morning to you, kinsey . i mean, whatever way you kinsey. i mean, whatever way you cut this, this is this is a snub from his father. i mean, surely especially given that he's had health concerns recently. no matter how busy your diary is, nobody doubts that it's busy. you find time to see your son when he lives on the other side of the world. surely. >> i mean, i do think especially for the american market, that prince harry is, is courting so

aggressively that this plays very well into his victimhood narrative, daddy didn't love me. i'm only the spare. i wasn't hugged as a child . he didn't hugged as a child. he didn't take me on bike rides. i mean, that that falls right in this category. but the fact that it's prince harry's team that's telling us this, you know, the palace refusing to comment, and the fact that prince harry is willing to overshare to the extent of saying, i'm not seeing my dad and here's why it's his fault, i think gives us some insight as to why the king isn't pursuing a meeting with his son. obviously, nothing is sacred. they can't trust. the last time prince harry jumped on a plane and went over to visit with his father, you know, i turned on good morning america a few days later and prince harry was discussing that meeting on an international, you know, morning show . so perhaps they are trying show. so perhaps they are trying to be protective of their space right now. the crown, you know, the crown is in crisis. if you if you consider their health

issues and maybe the king is just looking for some peace . just looking for some peace. >> yeah, i guess kinsey throwing your family under the bus in the manner that he did has consequences. who'd have thought? but what about the princess of wales? catherine? she's, of course, recovering with, or battling cancer still and is recovering as we speak. he's not even going to visit her. is he? prince william is away, of course, but they were so close at one point, and it just seems rather sad that he can't find even a couple of minutes to meet with her. >> well, i feel kind of, you know, in their defence, i wonder if the both the king and the princess of wales are being instructed by their doctors to be wary of socialising with somebody who's just been on a plane with how how many people we don't know . prince harry is we don't know. prince harry is meeting with a lot of people over the next three days for the invictus games and princess, the princess of wales, we do know, is going through preventative chemotherapy for cancer . the,

chemotherapy for cancer. the, that will weaken your immune system. that's why we're not seeing her very often. so it could be as simple as just trying to protect her, her body and her and her strength right how. >> now. >> come on. kenzie. he was on a private jet. you know it anyway. and as ben was alluding to, we're hearing these reports, i think tatler have been claiming that prince william is away for a night. he's off to nancy on this is the site for his first homelessness project that he's setting up down in cornwall. lots of commentators saying, is this a sign , perhaps, that the this a sign, perhaps, that the princess of wales is on the mend now, we obviously aren't in the business of speculating about her health, but i suppose all of us, you included big fans of the princess of wales and hopeful that this could mean something positive. >> yeah, i really felt a little relief when i saw him joking about jack whitehall and throwing it back to jack whitehall , always saying that whitehall, always saying that kate was the one that got away. i mean, the fact that he was willing to make light of that situation to me gave me a little bit of hope. but i agree. i

think that it is a good sign that the princess of wales is hopefully on the mend and it's unfortunate, but i think ben hit the nail on the head actions have consequences and words have consequences. and the royal family has had an especially hard 2024. and i think they're trying to protect their peace . trying to protect their peace. >> so kinsey, prince harry is of course doing his invictus gig at saint paul's. that finishes at about 6 pm. i think the king, meanwhile, is engaged in a garden party at buckingham palace that finishes slightly earlier at four. they're definitely not meeting, as we understand this morning . does understand this morning. does this signal the end of any future relationship ? because future relationship? because from the outside, you would have thought if there's one occasion that you could have some sort of unification , it's the fact that unification, it's the fact that harry's in the city that his father lives . and of course, father lives. and of course, he's, battling cancer. if they can't do it under these circumstances, when will they ever. eve r. >> even >>i even >> i mean, and just imagine there's literally a chance that their paths could cross in a can their paths could cross in a car. i mean, isn't that crazy to

think about, no, no, i see what you're saying . i don't think you're saying. i don't think that this is. you know, i don't want to say this. there will never be a reconciliation here. i think that this just isn't the right time. patience is a virtue. and i, you know, just just isn't the right time. but but i will say, both sides were telling me that there was going to be a meeting. so did something happen over the last few days ? was there an argument few days? was there an argument about camilla being in the room? what you know, what could have taken place that sent this south? because we were all being told to expect a meeting between harry and his father? >> definitely raises more questions than it answers. kinsey schofield. as always, lovely to see you. thanks very much. thank you. thank you. >> i'm not sure if someone had called my wife a wicked stepmother. i'd be keen on meeting them either. but who knows? >> well, families, you know, it's easy to lose them. you don't get to choose them. i think it's always sad when there's, you know, bad beef between father and son. fingers crossed there can be some sort of reunion in the future . but

of reunion in the future. but yeah, not in the leo household. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> not yet. >> not yet. >> anyway, i was saying to you earlier how we're having a discussion off air about my kids and isabel's kids , and how i'm and isabel's kids, and how i'm fearful for when they grow up and they won't want to hang out with me anymore. >> i said they still will, don't worry. >> and i would just dread to think that we ever have an argument where i don't speak to my son. i couldn't imagine it so i feel sad for the king and for for harry and all of them. it's horrible, right. let's turn to other matters now. the time is 613. here are the other stories making the headlines today and the foreign secretary, lord cameron, has warned that the uk is at risk of committing war crimes in rafah if they continue their latest offensive without a credible plan to protect civilians. it comes as the united states also urges israel to accept a ceasefire deal with hamas, the global charity unicef has warned that the ground incursion into rafah will pose a catastrophic risk to the 600,000 children currently taking shelter in that part of gaza, to and wuster, where a woman has admitted to being part of a global monkey torture network.

>> holly legresley posted more than 130 videos and 20 photos of the animals being tortured to onune the animals being tortured to online chat groups. the 37 year old pleaded guilty to separate charges of publishing obscene articles and intentionally encouraging animal cruelty. she was charged along with another woman after an investigation into animal torture overseas and a nationwide issue with border force e—gates has caused significant disruption at airports overnight. >> heathrow , gatwick and >> heathrow, gatwick and manchester were all affected by the outage as tens of thousands of people were left stranded in terminals, a spokesperson for the home office has revealed that the network issue occurred just before 8:00 last night. the e—gates came back, then came back online at midnight. there's no indication that it was as a result of a cyber attack, although we do want to hear from you. if you were caught up in that. you now, the defence secretary has told mps that the government cannot rule out state

involvement in a hack at the ministry of defence, but refused to confirm reports that china was behind it. >> beijing has strongly denied reports it's behind the hack, saying the accusations are, quote , completely fabricated. quote, completely fabricated. security specialist will geddes joins us now. will, good morning to you. hi. first of all, why maybe i'm being too simplistic in this this could possibly be some 20 year old kid in russia or, you know, eastern europe with, a bit of sophistication behind him. why is it necessarily a state actor? can you explain for those who. >> okay, so we have to look at the landscape at the moment, the landscape of cyber security and particularly the risks from nafion particularly the risks from nation states overseas, there could be deemed as hostile. and we look at signatures of behaviour and we look at signatures of attack . where are signatures of attack. where are they attacking? what are the intentions? what are the motivations , and what could be motivations, and what could be the dividends or the returns on those investments of effort. now, it could very well be a 20 year old who's in in his mum's basement, who's doing it, but he could have very well been

instructed by a state actor to do it on their behalf. and that's not uncommon. it's a part of their plausible deniability process to say we as a state haven't officially done it. we haven't officially done it. we haven't done it out of an official agency. it's been done through a proxy and this is nothing to do with us. so, you know, again, we've seen this with russia, we've seen this with russia, we've seen this with china, we've seen it in ukraine, we've seen it all over the world. where they will use separate entities to carry out these attacks. but we look at these attacks. but we look at the targeting and we look at what they've targeted. and i'm having my own question marks about the border force system. >> so am i actually, funnily enough, everybody is as well. >> so i think we have to consider at the moment that unless we're told otherwise and it's confirmed otherwise , we are it's confirmed otherwise, we are susceptible to a series of multiple form attacks. >> it seems to be the sort of i guess, the modus operandi of the government at the moment that wherever china is involved, there is a huge time lag before we're actually told. i don't know why, but it could well be that it's two years down the line before we're actually told exactly who was behind this. but

in the meantime, all of us are wondering, is this a serious threat to national security, and are we being robust, as the prime minister claims, enough in deaung prime minister claims, enough in dealing with this? >> well , i dealing with this? >> well, i don't think we are being robust. >> i think there are a lot of people working behind the scenes very, very hard to keep us robust, but i think in terms of some of the political rhetoric coming out at the moment, i think you're absolutely right. the general public are not stupid, and they're not going to be duped by sort of very woolly information. there's certainly this information not coming out till some time later. there are some question marks about that. there's the information commissioner officer, which are responsible obviously for managing and setting legislation for the control and protection of data, particularly where it has members of the general public. has members of the general pubuc.so has members of the general public. so we can raise some question marks over the late release of information and whether it should have been reported, which is an obligation by an organisation if they do have a breach. but yeah, there are lots and lots of interesting things going on right now. and in terms of the resilience we heard about grant shapps eight point plan, it's pretty straightforward. you do a penetration test. this is done

all the time in the private sector. you test by black, grey or white hackers. and those are the different types. the black being the complete anonymous hacker who knows nothing about the network, grey being partially aware of how the network is set up. and white is obviously the insider threat. you then test it, you see where the weaknesses are. you remediate those, you test it again, it's not difficult. and it's about resilience. that's the key thing. if the system does get attacked, what kind of measures have you got in place for early warning and how can you relay the system into a secure environment so that you can continue to supply? we look at the airports. that raises questions about what kind of resilience did we have in place for a £372 million paid for by taxpayers system? >> yeah, no, it is really alarming. and you can go down a sort of rabbit hole of worry when you start thinking, i mean, we're talking to the government later about, uranium enrichment plant that's being developed in the uk for the first time for decades. well, i think it's a first for that particular program. and then you think, well, if there's cyber security question marks and we're doing

uranium enrichment, where does the security step in? and, you know, are we safe. so there are, i think, serious questions about, you know, national security. >> yeah, i think i think there's a lot of questions to be raised about potentially elements in the private sector. and there are some very, very good technical and cyber capable entities out there that can come in and cross check. they can audh in and cross check. they can audit and test. and i think one of the biggest problems is it's a closed market. it's a little bit i don't want to draw it in, but it's almost like the vaccine market, and that that's going to open up a whole can of worms . open up a whole can of worms. but there has to be some cross checking by third parties who have no vested interest other than to come in and test it, but. >> well, can i can i? sorry to interject. we how on earth are we expected to protect our interests when, for example, a job posting for the treasury yesterday recruiting the head of cyber security was offering 50 7ka year might sound like a fairly decent wage for a lot of people. of course it is. but for that particular role, head of cyber security at the treasury, not even 60 k a year, you're not

going to attract the best talent. >> you're not. you're not. and you're going to get, hopefully, if they're lucky, someone very young, very early on in their career who is exceptionally talented . so you're whittling it talented. so you're whittling it down to a very, very, very small number of candidates. a chief information security officer in most companies will be earning at least £250,000 a year. so five times what they're offering. so we have to look at commensurate salaries and remuneration for the capability and the skills that are necessary. >> okay. will geddes. thank you. are you bidding for that job, it's a bit below my paper. not not for 50 k. >> quite right. >> quite right. >> all right. well, thank you very much indeed. see you again soon. now, as many of you will know, we have been nominated for a trick award, and we're very delighted about it. it's in the best news programme category, but we really do need some help. yes >> all you have to do is head to paul hyphen tric award dot uk. all the details are also shown on gbnews.com. so please vote now to make account which categories are we up for you and eamonn. >> eamonn is up for best

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be some cloudier skies across western coast into this afternoon, but i think many inland areas will see some long lived sunshine. it will feel quite warm in the sunshine. however, notice across northwestern areas of scotland starting to see some rain approach through this afternoon that will mainly be restricted to the western isles, perhaps parts of the highlands, and it will feel a little bit cooler here with a bit of a breeze. but in the sunshine, highs of 21 degrees are expected this afternoon, so a similar feel to yesterday through this evening. that rain will continue to persist across the far northwest , turning heavy at times, but it will remain restricted to the north of scotland. elsewhere, it should stay dry overnight, but again we could see some mist and fog starting to develop . some fog starting to develop. some drizzly rain is also possible over parts of the pennines and southern scotland should be another fairly mild night, despite any clearer skies. so a bright start for many areas of the uk on thursday, perhaps some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear. and it's going to be another dry, bright and sunny day on thursday. however, across the far northwest of

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watching on demand. good luck. >> very good. best of luck to you. still to come, we'll have the latest on the donald trump trial, stormy daniels, of course, paid him a, quote, hush money, figure. i think it was. well he paid her. he paid her. sorry. yeah, a bit early, isn't it? >> it's all right. but i tell you what it was. it was juicy in court yesterday. lots of detail, almost too much detail. the judge had to keep saying, we don't need to know all of that. we won't necessarily go into all

soa so a judge has indefinitely postponed donald trump's trial over claims that he illegally kept classified documents after leaving office. it had previously been scheduled to begin in just under two weeks in florida. >> lucky him. that's one down. the decision has been made due to still unresolved issues in the case because the former president is currently attending this separate trial over hush money allegations in new york. >> well, let's get into all of

that with criminal defence attorney joseph tully. good morning to you. thank you for joining us this morning from san francisco, i mean , extraordinary francisco, i mean, extraordinary is the only word i can think of, really to describe what we heard . what we saw, box office, i suppose, is one way of describing it, but almost, i mean, unedifying is another word isuppose mean, unedifying is another word i suppose you could use, but but the point is, does it change anything? you know, his sex life, what went on behind the scenes? that was all fascinating, i suppose, to some people. but was it illegal? i'm sure we'll find that out from this trial. whether or not he was in some way breaking the law i >> -- >> well, thank you both for having me. i would go with salacious, in terms of describing the testimony today, but you're exactly right , but you're exactly right, legally speaking, the significance was very, very small. if anything, it goes to bolster . it went to establish bolster. it went to establish the fact that. yes, they indeed had sex. the prosecution wants that fact in, donald trump has denied it. so it bolsters stormy

daniels credibility on that point and diminishes donald trump's credibility on that point, for the prosecution , it's point, for the prosecution, it's a win because they get to muddy him up in front of the jury. but really, in terms of can the prosecution meet the elements of the crime this had very little legal significance . legal significance. >> so tell us about the incident where the judge was basically telling stormy daniels not to be so graphic and explicit in her liaisons with donald trump. they basically said it wasn't necessary, the level of detail she was going into . she was going into. >> sure. so any time you you have a trial, the judge has to weigh the probative value of a fact versus a prejudicial effect of that. and if something is more prejudicial than it is probative, the judge has to keep it out. the defence prior to her taking the stand warned the judge and objected, and the judge and objected, and the judge brushed them off and just

said, go ahead and have at it. and we had we had the floodgates open and you had, you know, a porn star up there trying to get out as much, salacious details as she could to kind of get in her digs at donald trump and to humiliate him on, on a world stage. so the judge a few times did try to keep that down. but, at the end, the defence rejected, and asked for a mistrial, which the judge denied. and basically threw it back on the defence team, saying, you should have objected more. >> well, some of the details that we learned yesterday , i'm that we learned yesterday, i'm skipping over the worst ones. but she remembered reminisced, teasing him for his silk pyjamas. she thought it was strange that he took such an interest in the business operations of the porn industry, called her honeybunch. he said that melania, his wife , is very that melania, his wife, is very beautiful and that they sleep in separate rooms and talked about this now infamous incident where she spanked him with a rolled up copy of forbes magazine. how is

this going down with the conservative media? and i suppose i'm talking about the female churchgoing republican , female churchgoing republican, sort of god fearing group of people who he will need to vote him into power if he wants to be president of the united states again. >> sure. yes, i do think that that was one of the underlying goals of this testimony was to sort of drive a wedge between trump and the conservative christian, movement who support him, i, you know, i don't think, donald trump has ever portrayed himself as a perfect man. and sort of the what i see in the media and what i see, these groups saying is that, look, he's not a perfect man, but sometimes god calls on imperfect people to , to, to do his will. people to, to, to do his will. so i don't think it's having the effect, that that some would have thought. i think if anything, it's making him more of an underdog. and people have

more compassion for him, in terms of, wow, you're really going through it, they're really attacking you unfairly. >> we saw it with the access hollywood tapes during the 2016 presidential election. everyone thinking that it would be a campaign killer when in actual fact, it just galvanised the so—called maga base. joseph, just very briefly, if trump is convicted in any of these criminal or civil trials, will he still be allowed to stand for president ? president? >> yes. there's no, rikki neave agreement that, a felony conviction does not disqualify you from being president. so this will have no effect on on his on his presidency if he were to win. >> got it. >> got it. >> okay. joseph tati, thanks very much for joining >> okay. joseph tati, thanks very much forjoining us. appreciate it . appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. we couldn't be introducing more different characters. now. we've got the lovely paul coyte in the studio this morning with all the sports chalk and cheese a chalk and cheese. yeah. what juxtaposition. >> putting you right, i know that. >> yeah, yeah. i've never read

never read forbes in my life. yes. >> before you get started. yes, sir. >> before you get started. yes, sin the last time i saw you was before the spurs played arsenal. yeah. >> and you're an arsenal fan. >> and you're an arsenal fan. >> can we just remind the viewers what the score was that day? >> ooh, he's going there paul. >> ooh, he's going there paul. >> he's going there. >> he's going there. >> is it three nil to the to the arsenal, yes. it could have been. yes. interesting. >> are you an arsenal fan by any chance? >>iam chance? >> i am oh, right. okay, chance? >> i am oh, right . okay, okay. >> i am oh, right. okay, okay. but we know we've got that out of the way. >> we do need you to do a job against city, please. so. oh, sorry. >> i can't do that now. no, i can't. we won't be beating manchester city. now, before you said that we were going to go out and try and beat man city to try and help arsenal. now you've said that i'm not going to be able to help in any way. okay. >> what else is going on? >> what else is going on? >> paris saint—germain versus dortmund, in the second leg of the semi—final of the champions league paris saint—germain, who desperately, desperately want to win the champions league, they're out again because dortmund beat them one nil, which is two nil on aggregate. so i mean, it is a surprise. dortmund have gone over to paris and they've beaten them there and they've beaten them there and they're fifth. they were fifth in the bundesliga. so

really nothing expected of dortmund this year. that's mats hummels who's probably older than i am that actually scored the goal there for dortmund, and the goal there for dortmund, and the yellow wall went crazy. although the part of the parc de france where they played , there france where they played, there was only a small amount. if you see the size of the stadium of the dortmund fans now they sing a song and i will try and translate the whole thing for you. now look this. let's see them in action here. now this is them in action here. now this is them celebrating with the with them celebrating with the with the dortmund players. this is straight after the game . got straight after the game. got cancelled in order to show the benefits of the dortmund fans are some of the nicest fans i have ever met. whenever i've seen them, whenever i've met them, they're all friendly . them, they're all friendly. they're just out to have a great time. so they sing a song and it's about, a german or a dortmund fan who then goes, this is the song i would translate. i mean, do you sing it? >> he translated, oh gosh.

>> he translated, oh gosh. >> anyway , which he hands in as >> anyway, which he hands in as he hands in a sick note. then he says that his grandfather's died. yeah, it's quite a moving song. and then he takes over time. then he's sacked from his job and then he sings, who cares? borussia dortmund are playing abroad. so that's the bafis playing abroad. so that's the basis of the song. wow. it translates . maybe it rhymes. translates. maybe it rhymes. maybe it's better in german than it is . it is. >> i like a little folk story, but it is a little. >> it is a folk song and it's a big song with with the dortmund fans. and that was what the players were doing a bit more sophisticated than the chants you hear on the terraces here in, well at arsenal. yes i know, yeah, sure, but but not at spurs. but the last time borussia dortmund were in the champions league final was 2013, and it was at wembley stadium, which is where it is this year. and the team they played was bayern munich, who will play real madrid tonight. so history could we have some english interest in dortmund. >> sancho. >> sancho. >> he's a jadon sancho . yeah >> he's a jadon sancho. yeah i mean well jadon sancho who is a is a manchester united player who was at dortmund. so he's

gone over there and he's just been great again. whereas manchester united it was a disaster. but then we're looking at erik ten hag because i was talking about him earlier and erik ten hag and i'm calling him a dead man walking, erik ten hag and i'm calling him a dead man walking , which erik ten hag and i'm calling him a dead man walking, which is pretty much i think everybody agrees. he is now he's had this big fallout with jadon sancho. so jadon's probably over in germany. think whether he thinks i'd . rather stay here because i'd. rather stay here because it's working for me and it always has. but if he goes back to manchester united, he's going to manchester united, he's going to want erik ten hag to go. so it's whether erik ten hag is going to be backing ten hag. at this point, i don't i don't think i think probably his wife maybe, and i don't know why, because maybe even if he gets sacked, he still gets his salary, doesn't he, for ages. >> so she maybe she'd prefer or maybe she doesn't want him around. >> who knows. do we need the hassle? >> do we need the hassle? maybe it's >> do we need the hassle? maybe wsfime >> do we need the hassle? maybe it's time for me to go. but it's been said that he won't be fired. yeah after losing four nil crystal palace, they're still going to keep him until the fa cup final, which is in a couple of weeks. which is where

manchester united will play manchester united will play manchester city and a lot of manchester city and a lot of manchester united fans are fearing it. >> would that be enough to save him? i know the league performance has been dire, but would an fa cup win? i don't, i don't think so because often when you get managers in situations and you'll get it often happens when they're fired, sometimes you get managers that are fired after a really great result against a bigger team, and you think, why on earth were they fired then? >> it's usually because the board are thinking, you know what we'll do? we'll wait until after we get spanked by this team, which we expect . so team, which we expect. so i think what they'll do is just wait for the fa cup final. i doubt whether they expect to win it, i doubt it. so then they'll expect that probably he will lose the final and then he'll go , but he'll probably just see it till the end of the season. >> and sir jim till the end of the season. >> and sirjim ratcliffe till the end of the season. >> and sir jim ratcliffe the other day saying, you know, absolutely slamming the state of the club, saying that it was just unhygienic, dirty, messy. i know it was an extraordinary intervention. >> yeah. messy is what they probably want at manchester united. but unfortunately that's not going to happen. but it is. it's it needs a big change and whoever goes in is probably on a you know, it's a poisoned

chalice. it really is to go on at manchester united. >> who'd have thought? >> who'd have thought? >> i know we've got time for a little bazball. oh, go on then, bill bazball. this is, something that happened yesterday, over in kansas city. the kansas city royals against the milwaukee brewers. and, anyway, it's in kansas city. milwaukee brewers, stepping up to bat, have a look at this. and this is this is someone in the crowd. now, if it's here's a look at the ball. comes for a home run straight over the top. now there's a guy at the back. jumps up and leaps . at the back. jumps up and leaps. up at the back. jumps up and leaps. up and catches it. now look at him away with the catch. >> look at it. honestly loves it. >> can't help himself. saved it from the waterfall as well. absolute. >> yeah i know. look at the waterfall there at the background. so he's wearing an admiral's ice hockey shirt which is another milwaukee side. but look, it can't contain himself often, you know, like i say in cricket they throw the ball back. but in i think they get to keep it. >> yeah, they get to keep it. and there's so many videos online. i'm not sure if you've seen them, but of grown men fighting off, sniping, i know young kids the ball and leaving

the kids in tears. i mean, it's some of the video is going doing the rounds. >> are you wondering if he's jumping around like that? >> because it really hurt? because if i caught a ball that had been thrown that far, there's probably oh, he's going ouch, ouch. >> i'm not being funny. >> i'm not being funny. >> but you wouldn't guess he was an american man, would you? the way he's jumping around. >> no, exactly. but british, that behaviour i know, i know, you just stand there and go. >> thank you very much. i think it hurt. but like when you said, ben, is that when you get people will take the baseball? is that sometimes if it's an important if it's if it's like someone that's breaking a record for home runs or something similar like that. if they catch the baseball, the baseball itself can be worth millions of dollars. so if they catch it, it's like, i don't care if the kids in the way i'm going to keep the ball, because if you can sell it, you're going to make a lot of money. >> college fund sorted right there. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> oh, well, maybe give a kid, give the kid $5 and say, sorry, i'm i've got quite long arms. >> i'll probably do quite well. >> i'll probably do quite well. >> you'll be all right. >> you'll be all right. >> lanky arms. >> lanky arms. >> right, paul? well, you know. >> right, paul? well, you know. >> yeah, you'd be you'd be getting really violent. >> oh, dear. i'll give you a dennis bergkamp style elbow.

elbow. >> we'll see. we'll see. okay. >> we'll see. we'll see. okay. >> all right. speaking of which, tension in here. enough. we're done. see you in a bit, paul. thank you so much . we're going thank you so much. we're going to be going through the papers in just a moment. stop it. with the lovely norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp and they'll be going through the papers with us. see you.

welcome back. at 642. we're taking a look at the front pages this morning. this is how they're shaping up this wednesday morning. the telegraph is leading with children facing being kicked off social media under plans for tougher age checks. >> the guardian says reports on the garrick club members voting to lift the 193 year old ban on women joining the club. >> arthur, it's extraordinary that the daily mail says prince harry has been forced to admit that the king is too busy to see him as he visits the uk for the invictus games. >> the express leads on senior tories claiming migrants do not

boost economic growth . boost economic growth. >> and here's the mirror. it says that pubs will stay open until 1 am. on the semi—final and final nights of euro 2024. >> surely they should be open that late anyway. what time do they close ? they close? >> i don't know, i haven't been in a pub past 11:00 for a long time. we're going through the papers this morning in the wonderful company of norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp. welcome to both of you.thank hoenderkamp. welcome to both of you. thank you very much indeed. renee, let's start with you. this is our top story as well this morning, that britain is leading the charge to keep the young safe online. now, we've talked about this issue before in the past, but is this i mean, certainly the right step in the right direction, but is it going to go far enough? will it work? >> i just can't help but read this and just hear blah, blah, blah. you know, another sticking plaster over a massive problem that actually the people that need to get a grip of this are parents, because that's where these kids are looking at phones. they're being given phones. they're being given phones. i sat in the cinema on monday next to a nine year old who every 30s checked his smartphone next to me and, you know, parents need to step up to

the plate here. the evidence is clear. we are ruining our children with access to online space. we need to step back. if you were going to the doctors and they're saying to you that your cough is because of your smoking, you would stop smoking, or hopefully you would. you know, we know what's ruining our children. take the phones away. don't give it to them till they're at least 16. play with them. let them. >> that's that sounds. some would argue that sounds quite late because they be missing out on all the technological education. and, you know, you can do that at home. >> you can do that at home with them. so my daughter has access to the internet for 20 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the evening. between that, she never sees a phone. she never sees sees a screen, nor will she. this is for parents to step up. yes, the government. it's good. it's good that they're doing it. and these algorithms are disgusting . they're not just are disgusting. they're not just tiktok as it says in the story, they're all of them. anybody who wants to know more about this should watch social dilemma, which shows you how these algorithms drag your children into places where you don't want them to be because they get the dopamine hit. >> and none of the tech giant's children have access to it as

well, which i think speaks volumes, but i'm not sure if i agree with you, renee about putting all of this on parents, because parents that i speak to feel like they're up against a tidal wave of peer pressure from the kids who don't know any better , they don't want their better, they don't want their child to be bullied for being the only one that doesn't have one. and that's that balance between trying not to make sure they're left out from those technological developments and all the rest of it that the kids are telling them are the case. and obviously the risks and harms. and i just hear it time and again that parents are very concerned , but want a united concerned, but want a united front on this from schools, from the government , from ofcom, from the government, from ofcom, from the government, from ofcom, from the tech giants. but it shouldn't just be down to parents. of course. >> but all of this starts at home. you know why are you giving your nine year old a smartphone? you know, that's the first point. and you know, i hear this all the time. people say to me online, oh, you'll be responsible for your daughter being bullied. that's not my problem. that's the bullies problem. that's the bullies problem. i'm going to make sure my daughter is brought up without this constant assault on her mind. that is going to drive her mind. that is going to drive her to places where i don't want her to places where i don't want her to places where i don't want her to be. >> is it going to work, do you think? >> norman, i hope so, but i

suspect not. i mean, it is being billed as the most inventive and serious attempt to control what's online from any country in the world. and if the government's doing that, then fair credit to them for taking that approach . the reality is that approach. the reality is that approach. the reality is that there are ways around various bans and restrictions which could be found, and the other thing is that the tech companies themselves, of course, are amoral in the sense that they don't really care who watches what they're interested in making money, which is why the important aspect of the story is the ability to levy huge fines on these companies of their global revenue. >> will that be enough to tell them to pull their socks up? >> i think so if you get 1 or 2 fines, which are actually of that level, then they will start thinking again. as always, people will do things. they'll follow the pocket, they'll follow the pocket, they'll follow the pocket, they'll follow the money. if the money's going to disappear because of their actions, they'll change policy. but does ofcom have a good record for enforcing fines or for you know, i don't know, it's questionable whether or not ofcom has the teeth to take on the tech giants, even though they've been given the powers to

say, what, 18 when they're making so much money they actually will write those fines into their business plan, just like the drug companies do, that it doesn't matter if the fine is 10, because we're going to make 90% over that. >> you know, they'll write it in. they're not going to give up something that's making them so much money. >> and you make a good point, renee, about bullying. because when i was a kid, if you were going to get bullied, you were bullied at school. and as soon as you came home, that was your refuge. you it you know, subsided for a while. >> kids don't have now. >> kids don't have now. >> these days. it's constant on whatsapp. they're being added to groups. there's images being shared. it'sjust groups. there's images being shared. it's just non—stop. >> so the bullies follow them home and follow. follow them into their bedroom, which is why they sit there so sad and so unhappy, and also as a as a dad of two boys. >> there's been so many studies, so many documentaries about the warped perception of sex for young people. girls now are growing up thinking that their first time having sex is, you know, something akin to a porn movie, because that's what boys are watching. it's terrifying. as a parent. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and that porn increasingly violent and degrading. yeah it's an absolute cesspit. it's a

worry. right. let's move on to another story. this is an interesting, bizarre story to be talking about. 2024, garrick club did vote last night, norman, to allow female members . norman, to allow female members. and there were some interesting, people speaking up for the ladies, people like stephen fry and others . and others. >> well, the interesting question for me is whether they were speaking up for the ladies as you put it, five years ago, or whether they weren't or whether they're just doing this now because the guardian ran a story exposing the membership and, and the fact that this particular ban existed. i mean, ihave particular ban existed. i mean, i have to say that i don't particularly worry whether the ban or not because, you know, if an organisation wants to have a11 sex policy , then i don't see a11 sex policy, then i don't see anything wrong with that personally. >> but why should a long standing establishment be forced and be bounced into changing their rules? >> well, actually, that's the point i'm making for it , but point i'm making for it, but they're probably feeling under pressure. morally obliged. well, look , that's the point. look, that's the point. >> there weren't. they wouldn't have done this unless it had been exposing the guardian. three. you know, about a month

ago saying this was in place and how dreadful it was. and, and exposing the membership list or some of it from the garrick club, and therefore they felt the obliged now to take action in to order defend their reputation. but what i'm saying is , i don't particularly feel is, i don't particularly feel obuged is, i don't particularly feel obliged to say this should happenif obliged to say this should happen if they want to have a policy of only having men in there. that's your problem with that. >> i mean, i suppose the counterargument point is that, you know, that obviously you need to have safe spaces, gender specific spaces in toilets, in hospitals, but whether or not you should be socialising, excluding a certain group is fairly abhorrent. >> but if you're if you're if you're a private organisation , you're a private organisation, why do you have to. why can't you just set your own rules? >> yeah. renee can i can men not have their own private spaces? >> i think men should have their own private spaces. and i think as much as i fight for women's protected spaces, i fight for it for men, too. you know, there's a reason these clubs have existed. and, yes, there might be some business deals done there, but also many places where they can go and discuss things with other men privately

and in their own space. and i think, you know, women mix with men in every single place now in the workplace, on the factory floor, wherever it is, let the men have something which is a bastion of english culture. it's just another part of culture that we're getting rid of and let them have their space. >> but we're not getting rid . of >> but we're not getting rid. of it. they're getting rid of it. the vote? well, they're not they've been bullied. i just think it's very easy for us all to say that this has been forced upon them. they've chosen to do this themselves. they've chosen to do it. >> the people that didn't want it have left. so they've lost members because of it. i think, again, it is pressure from the media to do it because it looks like it's another virtue signalling box ticked and i think how many women really want to be there. i've been to the garrick club as a guest, so there are women there. women do go in there. it's not totally male. i think this is a nonsense. and i think we should leave our men's spaces alone as much as we should. >> our women. and how many men want to go there? i don't want to be a member of the garrick club. >> thank you very much. i was going to ask you, norman, when you were a government minister, did you ever frequent the

carlton club or any of these? carlton club or any of these? carlton club? >> no. certainly not. no, i'm not of that nature at all. i was a member of the groucho club, which was a party one down in water, down in was it frith street? that was me. >> there we go, harry's reunion hope has been dashed. renee in front of quite a few of the papers. three of the papers this morning. the metro, the sun. sorry. yes the sun and the mail, i mean, if wanted to find i mean, if he wanted to find time, the king surely would find time. yeah. >> i mean, i think that i couldn't care very much about this story. i have to compare. >> me neither. >> me neither. >> but, yeah, i think if the king really wanted to find time, of course he would find time. i think it's very sad because i think it's very sad because i think it's very sad because i think it's always sad when a family obviously has a big rift in it like this. but i think it says much to how little they trust harry to actually come oven trust harry to actually come over, speak to any of them and not go and then accept it. >> they met last time that he was over. so has something changed? and i suppose that's the there's only three 30 minutes last time, which was he was given a limited amount of time and no doubt the king was very careful what he said. >> so it didn't appear in the us press. the next day they don't trust what he'll do. they don't trust what he'll do. they don't trust him to keep confidences . trust him to keep confidences. it's very sad, really, but that's how things are. >> i think sometimes illness makes people close ranks. and

clearly with kate and the king, they've actually closed the ranks. they're very close. they're very happy in each other's company . maybe they other's company. maybe they weren't that enamoured by the messaging that they were getting from the states. when it was announced that they were ill, it was a bit slow to come. any, you know, we wish them well, etc. and i just think it's very sad. >> it is sad. people say life's too short, just bury the hatchet. but then i always say as well, on the flip side, life is short, so why should you have to tolerate such torrid behaviour? i mean, what harry and meghan did was atrocious. absolutely disgraceful. they literally tried maybe are still trying arguably to bring down the royal family you know the comments about his wife camilla. yeah calling her a wicked stepmother. i mean, look, i think everyone makes mistakes . think everyone makes mistakes. >> if harry had come and said sorry and was contrite, then that's a totally different matter. and i can forgive anyone if they're sorry. but i think the problem is that he's been saying he's waiting for an apology himself. >> he wants it. >> he wants it. >> i think the pools he's pulled in two directions because he wants to make things up with his family, but meghan clearly doesn't. and then he wants to be

loyal to her and he's stuck in the middle, so poor harry. yes, in a way. >> okay. didn't expect to end on that note. let's take a look, shall we, where shall we go? shall we do something a bit lighter now? well, i was going to say lighter. >> yeah. daniel's quite serious. >> yeah. daniel's quite serious. >> yeah. daniel's quite serious. >> yeah. let's do some stormy, shall we, norman, and this again is raising eyebrows . the sexual, is raising eyebrows. the sexual, the alleged sexual exploits of wannabe returnee to the white house >> well, i mean, it's salacious stuff, isn't it, that you hear on the television and some of the reports about what's been the reports about what's been the line of questioning which has been pursued. i mean, it's all very, gratuitous in some way and actually not terribly central to the case because the case doesn't rely on whether or not he had an affair with or sexual encounter with stormy daniels. it relies on whether or not there was there was falsification of business records as a consequence. so in a sense, it was a diversion. what happened yesterday? i suppose the issue is whether or not the jury feels sympathy for donald trump, that this is all dragged through the courts , or dragged through the courts, or whether they feel he's a he's a nasty person and they their

opinion of him weakens renee. >> he was accused of falling asleep some days ago during the trial, and he said, i was just resting my beautiful blue eyes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, look, you've got to laugh, haven't you? he's he's a showman, isn't he? there's nothing else i do wonder with this, actually, if this may turn on the fact that people don't appreciate that the americans are actually very prudish as a nation. oh, absolutely . they nation. oh, absolutely. they really are. and i wonder if some of this detail that's coming out now in court will run the wrong way with that jury, because it will be making their hairs on the back of their neck stand up, but we will see. i mean, it's not very , you know, edifying, is not very, you know, edifying, is it, of somebody who wants to take office again. but then you could say that it's a political thing. he's been dragged through the courts when other presidents have lots of things in their closets that haven't been dragged through the courts, it's just a mess, isn't it? yeah. >> although, you know, americans prudish in one sense. you know, there's no childhood nudity or anything . that sort of sweet anything. that sort of sweet innocence that we all have of kids on the beach, that everybody's covered up, and it's sort of as if children are sexualised, but they're the ones that have sold sex around the world more than anyone. anyone

to everyone , but as you say, to everyone, but as you say, will it wash? i mean, we've all heard what he said about grabbing a woman by the genhaua grabbing a woman by the genitalia in 2016, and that didn't seem to deter. >> i don't think his base will care. they'll see it as a political motivator. i mean, the new york attorney general, alvin bragg, a massive democrat . bragg, a massive democrat. they'll just see it as a political persecution. >> but will the jury all to play for? we will see. and we'll say goodbye to you both norman and renee. see you both again just after 7:30. but for now, let's get a check on the forecast. a bit misty and foggy as i was coming in this morning, but will it be another beautiful day? annie shuttleworth will tell us. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. it should be a dry day for most of us. a bit of a cloudier start across the east coast. that's because some clouds pulled in overnight that should slowly start to burn back throughout this morning and into the afternoon. there could also

be some cloudier skies across western coast into this afternoon, but i think many inland areas will see some long lived sunshine. it will feel quite warm in the sunshine , quite warm in the sunshine, however. notice across northwestern areas of scotland starting to see some rain approach through this afternoon that will mainly be restricted to the western isles, perhaps parts of the highlands, and it will feel a little bit cooler here with a bit of a breeze. but in the sunshine, highs of 21 degrees are expected this afternoon, so a similar feel to yesterday through this evening. that rain will continue to persist across the far north—west, turning heavy at times , but it will remain times, but it will remain restricted to the north of scotland . elsewhere it should scotland. elsewhere it should stay dry overnight, but again we could see some mist and fog starting to develop. some drizzly rain is also possible over parts of the pennines, and southern scotland should be another fairly mild night despite any clearer skies, so a bright start for many areas of the uk on thursday. perhaps some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear. and it's going to be another dry, bright and sunny day on thursday. however across the far northwest of scotland, still skies will

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in the semi—final second leg of the champions league, so they're going to be in the final. but who will they play? could it be all german again? it's going to be bayern munich and they're going to be playing real madrid currently two all and that happens at the bernabeu tonight. nottingham forest have lost their appeal to lose points in their appeal to lose points in the premier league. and exciting news. the olympic flame arrives in france today. >> good morning . another day of >> good morning. another day of sunny and bright weather for many of us, but will that sunshine last until tomorrow? you can find out all the details with me a little later. on. >> so plenty to get stuck into this morning. not least harry being snubbed by his dad. we've touched on it previously. sad, isn't it, that it is really sad. >> but, you know, perhaps he's only got himself to blame . one only got himself to blame. one senses he's a little bit stuck in the middle between his wife and his family. in the middle between his wife and his family . will they ever? and his family. will they ever? >> do you think he'll ever come back? because there's an argument that one day he'll come back to london with his tail between his legs.

>> i'm an optimist, so i think that it will all be sorted. >> yeah, eventually . >> yeah, eventually. >> yeah, eventually. >> all right, well, let's move on. new rules this morning . on. new rules this morning. online rules to labours push to fix the nhs . waiting times. so fix the nhs. waiting times. so we're joined now by shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth mp. good morning jonathan. so the labour position is easy to shout from the sidelines. but your position jonathan, is that waiting times? of course in the gutter. but what are you going to do to sort it out ? it out? >> well, of course, the analysis that we've released today indicate that on virtually all of their targets, in fact, all of their targets, in fact, all of their targets, the vast majority of nhs trusts , that's majority of nhs trusts, that's the organisations who run the hospitals have completely failed to miss their targets on waiting times for operations. to miss their targets on waiting times for operations . and this times for operations. and this is a consequence of 14 years of the conservatives driving our nhs into the ground. so what's labour's solution? we would introduce a proper tax on the very super wealthy non—doms, and we would use the proceeds from that to fund extra appointments.

2 million extra appointments a yearin 2 million extra appointments a year in our nhs , so we can start year in our nhs, so we can start driving those waiting times down. so if you're waiting for a hip replacement or a knee replacement or hernia, perhaps a cataract operation you need, you can get your operations on time. too many people are waiting in pain and agony at the moment for an operation after 14 years of the conservatives. >> and i suppose if you want to point to track records, you can look to how labour run wales is doing on the nhs. how are waiting times faring there ? waiting times faring there? >> i'll tell you a track record i can point to. the last labour government brought waiting times down from 18 months to 18 weeks. that's the difference. a labour government at westminster makes on the national health service and for all your viewers who are struggling this morning to get a gp appointment, when the gp phone lines open at 8:00, struggling to see an nhs dentist. as you know you can't see an nhs dentist for love, nor money or waiting in pain for an operation . our message is

operation. our message is a labour government is going to start rebuilding our nhs. 2 million extra appointments a yearin million extra appointments a year in the nhs , more dentistry year in the nhs, more dentistry appointments, more mental health appointments, more mental health appointments, more mental health appointments, more appointments for knees and hip operations. that's the difference a labour government will make. >> it's not exactly a ringing endorsement for devolution. then, if it will only work under laboun then, if it will only work under labour, if it's coming out of westminster, it doesn't work in wales where they're running their own show. because we all know the nhs is a disaster in wales . wales. >> well, there are different measurements in wales, but of course when you're running the national health service at westminster , you're responsible westminster, you're responsible for the overall budgeting. you're responsible for the overall staffing levels. one of the issues we've had in the nhs over these last 14 years is that we simply haven't had the staff, because the training places for nurses were cut back very early on by george osborne, for example, that's impacted on the nhs in wales. so when we get a labour government putting that extra investment in driving up standards, demanding reform across the board, in the nhs, making real use of technology

and the advances that digital digital technologies would bring into the nhs. and indeed i you can do much more procedures and diagnostics by the use of ai , diagnostics by the use of ai, you can really transform the national health service for the 21st century. at the moment, it's on its knees. after 14 years of the conservatives. >> yet jonathan, some would argue the elephants in the room is the fact that the tories have overseen , you know, uncontrolled overseen, you know, uncontrolled mass migration, a city the size of birmingham every two years. labour hasn't said what they're going to do about that. i mean, in fact, it probably get worse, some would argue. so when you've got open borders like that and local services , the nhs, local services, the nhs, schools, gps aren't being funded properly, properly, properly, how are you going to sort that out when you're not addressing the key issue, which is migration, putting pressure on all those services? >> well, it's absolutely chaos at the borders, isn't it. we were supposed to have order at the borders and it's been the exact opposite with the numbers of people crossing on boats, making those journeys across the

channel because people smugglers are exploiting them. you've got to go after those criminal gangs in a proper way, use terrorist laws to go after them, stop being the soft touch on these criminal gangs that we've seen. but i tell you what, it's also going to ruin and be a problem for the nhs. the government announced yesterday that it is their policy to a policy, not an ambition , not a long term aim, ambition, not a long term aim, but their policy to abolish national insurance. that leaves them with a £46 billion black hole in their plans. it either means taxing pensioners more or it means cutting the nhs. and jeremy hunt, who told pensioners to wait longer for a hip operation or a knee operation because he said it wasn't a priority. jeremy hunt is now going to cut the nhs or he's going to cut the nhs or he's going to cut the nhs or he's going to tax pensioners more. that's the big threat at this next general election. >> i think what's been really interesting about wes streeting thing in his plans to reform is his openness about using the private sector to help ease a lot of the pressure on the nhs. i just can't get my head around why on the one hand, it's okay to take advantage and use the private sector when it comes to

health. but when it comes to education, where people are paying education, where people are paying their taxes still, but then using private schools , you then using private schools, you want to penalise those people. and in actual fact, instead of using the private sector to ease the state, you want to make that situation worse. >> well, that's a question about the taxation regime. and as you know, because the conservatives ran the economy off a cliff, because they played fast and loose with the public finances, you made a mess of the public finances and people are paying more on their mortgage. you've got to take some tough taxation decisions. and if we tax those private schools, the proceeds of that money is going to go into an expansion of mental health support in schools , and it's support in schools, and it's going to help us fund some of our other plans to recruit more teachers in schools, for the schools that the vast majority of gb news viewers children go to, yes . to, yes. >> go on. >>- >> go on. >> jonathan, just talking about wes streeting, what's your your thoughts on his language over the weekend off the back of the election results , calling voters election results, calling voters of susan hall, the london mayoral candidate, white

supremacists and islamophobes? is that the kind of language we expect from a government in waiting ? waiting? >> well, people, you know, in the heat of an election campaign say things. but i am pleased that, won we sadiq khan won in london and beat stuart hall convincingly. actually it was a very, convincing victory, wasn't it? when perhaps people were suggesting that the conservatives were going to win that and if you look at some of the other races that happened last week, north yorkshire, which is rishi sunaks backyard, jonathan, i'm asking you about wes streeting language , not the wes streeting language, not the election results. yeah. i've said, well i've just well, you it is linked to the election and i just said it. it is linked to the election and ijust said it. people say i just said it. people say things in the heat of the moment , but on those elections i think it shows that, yes, labour was winning the argument, but the next general election is a real contest. the next general election is a real competition between whether you want a labour government and changing this country, or whether you want to continue with conservative failure. but it is going to be a real contest at the next general election. but we're going to continue to make the arguments. we're going to continue to do all we can to win the trust of the british people,

including gb news viewers. and we're going to talk more about how we're going to fix the nhs, how we're going to fix the nhs, how if you're a young person struggling to get on the housing ladden struggling to get on the housing ladder, how are we going to build more homes for young people so they can realise that dream of home ownership, how children go into our primary schools will have access to a breakfast club in every primary school, and how we're going to cut energy bills for good. >> jonathan, one final quick question very briefly. apologies, there seems to be a consensus on social media from labour mps in recent days about the situation in rafah in gaza , the situation in rafah in gaza, that's a stark contrast to some of the behaviour we've seen in recent months. are you bowing down to these 18 demands from the muslim vote? >> no, no, let me be absolutely clear . we >> no, no, let me be absolutely clear. we have said, quite rightly, for some time now that military offensive into rafah would be catastrophic . i think would be catastrophic. i think half the children in gaza are in this part of the gaza strip. we've already seen thousands of people lose their lives, killed many women and children. i've

been calling for some time now for an immediate ceasefire. i am warning against this intervention, this offensive into rafah. we also need the access for humanitarian aid. yes, we also need the hostages released. but there is a catastrophe facing us and the international community need to work to bring about that immediate ceasefire and bring an end to this horrendous conflict . end to this horrendous conflict. >> so do you think labour would bow down to any of those 18 demands, one being to cut all military ties with israel , military ties with israel, another changing the definition of extremism that michael gove brought in. do you foresee any of those demands being, adhered to by sir keir starmer ? to by sir keir starmer? >> well, i don't know what the particular demands you are, but i'll go off and i'll go. i'll go off and look into them. but we do not bow down to whatever, you know, campaign groups. we are acting in what we think is the correct way. and we have been calling for an immediate ceasefire for some time. we have been warning against an offensive in to rafah. we've been calling for hostages to be freed, and we've been calling for proper humanitarian

assistance to free into that part of the world. this is a catastrophe. thousands of people have lost their lives, including women and children. we've got to bnng women and children. we've got to bring work, work internationally to bring about peace and ceasefire. >> okay . shadow paymaster >> okay. shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth, always a pleasure. thanks very much indeed forjoining us here on gb news. >> now, today is the ten year anniversary of the invictus games and the duke of sussex, prince harry. he's in the uk to celebrate a service of thanksgiving at saint paul's cathedral later today. >> well, the charity was founded by prince harry back in 2014 to support veterans and to provide them with support after they leave the armed forces and away from the drama of the royal family and whether the king and harry will meet, we can forget how important invictus is and all the good work it does for veterans. so joining us now is senior statutory grants officer for the armed forces charity , for the armed forces charity, mandy small. good morning mandy, it's absolutely true isn't it, because there's so much almost psychodrama around the royals and their own relationships that sadly, i think the invictus

games can sometimes be overshadowed. and because a lot of people view prince harry as as being a little bit spoilt, they can forget what an incredible job he's done with this. so just tell us about your first hand experience of being involved with it and why we should all be celebrating ten years of it . years of it. >> i mean, i've never actually competed in the invictus games, i went to the veterans games and represented ssafa a couple of years ago, which is invictus games, but on a smaller scale. okay and i saw exactly how important that was for myself. i mean, i was injured in iraq in two thousand and seven and normal me, i'm quite isolated and i hide myself away . and for and i hide myself away. and for me, that was massive because i was back in the brotherhood , i was back in the brotherhood, i was back in the brotherhood, i was back in the brotherhood, i was back in the armed forces community and the effect that had on my mental health was absolutely amazing. so i've got friends that compete in the invictus games, and i've seen how it's helped with their recovery , you know, and working

recovery, you know, and working for ssafa, we have people that we've helped over the last few years that compete and they always come back to us and they say how how amazing the experience is. and i think you're right. you know, we hear all these other things about prince harry, but what do you know what what he started was just absolutely amazing thing. and i think it's safe to say that he's saved so many lives over the years through doing the invictus games. >> how is prince harry perceived by military veterans ? because, by military veterans? because, of course, he used to be cream of course, he used to be cream of the crop. some years ago before he met meghan, lots of patronages or different charities and so on. and of course, he's got a stellar military record himself. has that changed amid all the controversy in recent years , i controversy in recent years, i don't know. i can't really sort of comment on other people's opinions of him. what about your you know, my opinion. you know what he served the same as the rest of us, he he wrote a blank cheque for this country. and i don't think that should be

forgotten, you know, whatever's gone on in the past few years is his choice as such. and he's made decisions for his own reasons. but, you know , i'll reasons. but, you know, i'll always have a special place in my heart for him because he served alongside the rest of us. >> yeah. and he did it in an exemplary fashion as well, do you think enough is done in this country, aside from what prince harry has done, to support veterans like yourselves who've had, you know, life changing implications? and, you know, paid the ultimate price, really, you know, putting your life on the line to serve queen and country. at the time, king and country. at the time, king and country now. and could we do more to honour and protect them? >> i think we could always do more. yeah i lost my husband to suicide seven and a half years ago after serving 21 years in the army and it's he was very much old school in that you didn't talk about your mental health and obviously that's

changed massively the last few years , and there are there are years, and there are there are some wonderful charities out there. ssafa, you know, we've been around since 1885 and last year alone we helped more than 59,000 people, including the armed forces, community families, which is just massive. and there is help out there . and and there is help out there. and i would say to anyone, if you're struggling the hardest part of getting help is making that initial phone call. you know, once you've done that, then you've got support alongside you every step of the way, which is massive. you know, the help we got from ssafa when we lost chris, it not only changed our lives, it saved my life . and lives, it saved my life. and that can't be underestimated. so we can always do more as a country, always . country, always. >> do you think we need to be sorry to interject, man. do you think we need to be more akin to, say, the us, where their veterans are ? they are national veterans are? they are national heroes in every sense of the word .

word. >> yeah. you know, i think the states have got it right, even as british veterans, when we go out there, we're treated like that , but out there, we're treated like that, but again, you know, a lot of it, it's a very fine line, isn't it? because i know as a veteran myself, i don't see myself as a hero. i was just very lucky to have a job that love. >> yeah, well, we see you as a hero and we see your late husband as a hero. he served 21 years, deploying to every conflict zone during that time and left behind you. and at the time of his death, an eight year old son. we are so sorry for your loss and incredibly brave of you to come on and talk to us about it all this morning. thank you. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> oh, puts things in perspective, doesn't it? it does a little bit. >> it does. and i really i love america as a country. and one thing i really admire about them is how the way they respect and celebrate their veterans. >> and i'll tell you what you go and deal with, talk to anybody who's suffering homelessness in the united states and a huge proportion of those are veterans as well. and, you know, there are complicated issues around,

you know, serving mental health crises, post traumatic stress, alcoholism often linked to that . alcoholism often linked to that. is there enough support in the united states, even if they do have hero status? it's a really difficult issue. but i do think if we want to recruit the best in the world to serve in our armed forces, we have to look after them . after them. >> johnny mercer is doing some good work here, and of course, you know, for all harry's controversy and perceived faults, he is doing some great work with invictus. yeah. >> and johnny mercer is also courting controversy, isn't he, because he's facing, questions about whether or not he should be protecting whistleblowers , be protecting whistleblowers, and we will be talking about that a little bit later on in the programme. but for now , the programme. but for now, let's turn our attention to israel. foreign secretary lord cameron has warned that the uk is at risk of committing war crimes in rafah if they continue their latest. i think they mean israel there continue their latest offence without a credible plan to protect civilians. >> and it comes as the united states has also urged israel to accept a ceasefire deal with hamas global charity unicef has also warned the ground incursion into rafah will pose a

catastrophic risk to the 600,000 children taking shelter in the city. >> well, let's bring in freelance journalist joe feenan regular on the program this morning to talk to us. look, i don't really think it matters what religion you have where you live in the world. seeing a lot of the images that were coming out of rafah yesterday were incredibly hard to watch. children being crushed under buildings . you know, these are buildings. you know, these are people who've already, in many cases, been moved from khan younis. and before that, gaza city are now being asked from this tented encampment to move again. it's a human tragedy. whichever way you look at it. i suppose the question is to you, joe term, how's. you know, is this an actual proper invasion of rafah , or is this perhaps of rafah, or is this perhaps a really hard line negotiating strategy and is there still perhaps some hope for these ceasefire negotiations , as ceasefire negotiations, as though it is part of a strategy? >> and the israeli government has already admitted that that this is part of israel's way to put pressure on hamas to finally be flexible in the ceasefire negotiations, because until now

they have not been they still demand a full israeli withdrawal from gaza and a permanent ceasefire. that's that's not being flexible. so one of the reasons why they went into the eastern part of, of rafah yesterday was to put pressure on hamas. this is not yet a full blown invasion. israel is doing this slowly. they are dividing rafah into stones, and now they're starting with the eastern neighbourhood, which, encompasses around 100,000 palestinian civilians and they are to be moved eastwards into an area where there are tents and food and shelter. but as we also spoke about yesterday, most most areas in gaza are affected by the war one way or another. yeah >> and as you say, being moved to places where there are resources . but frankly, we're resources. but frankly, we're told by a number of independent and impartial aid organisations on the ground there, not sufficient for the numbers of people that have been asked to move. for example, one toilet being queued for more than 24 hours, for women and children who've got complex and multiple

injuries themselves, there's widespread condemnation even from from israel's allies . how from from israel's allies. how long do you think israel can withstand this kind of pressure? because this is, i suppose, one of the most controversial moves since the terrible atrocities carried out by hamas on october the 7th. >> i think it really depends on how israel will conduct itself inside rafah, because the evacuation of these people is crucial to lower the number of civilians being killed. but like you said, the places that they're going to aren't, there aren't sufficient humanitarian aid there. but how it'll conduct itself in rafah will be crucial. so if israel makes a lot of mistakes and starts killing more aid workers, if a lot of civilians are being killed, then israel will face enormous pressure and eventually the united states might actually force israel to stop the ground invasion. i think we have to really, really see more catastrophe unfold before the united states makes that

decision . because no matter decision. because no matter what, no matter how much israel's allies warn against this invasion, they all agree that hamas needs to remove from gaza. the uk also agrees to that. so if that's the case, then rafah is a place israel has to go in. it's very simple and it's of course easy to condemn israel for going in there. but what's the solution? if you want to remove hamas from gaza , what to remove hamas from gaza, what is the solution? i'm yet to hear anyone come up with any sort of rational solution, a plan b as to how you would remove hamas from gaza if you don't go into rafah . rafah. >> yes, but but joe term, some people would argue or ask even how many innocent palestinian lives children especially, and women are worth ridding, hamas or israel, i don't think that there's a number the same way as there's a number the same way as the united states didn't have a number when 9/11 happened. they occupied two countries for two decades. hundreds of thousands of people, civilians were killed. they weren't asked to put a number on this. so for

israel, there's two things at stake. number one, 133 hostages held inside gaza. as long as they're in there, you can count on israel continuing to do everything they can and will to get them out as any other country would. and number two, as long as hamas is still militarily present inside gaza, they will continue this war because they will not allow, israel to go back to october the 6th, where hamas constitutes a major threat to israeli civilians living along the gaza border . border. >> i mean, it's such a nebulous term, though, isn't it, to say getting to annihilate or get rid of hamas because it's like, at what point can you definitively say that hamas is gone? and what does that mean? that you could actually arguably destroy the entirety of gaza in order to annihilate hamas? i mean, it's just i do think there's a problem there for netanyahu. and he has to obviously appease this, this hard line of his government. otherwise his government. otherwise his government might collapse. but there are, i suppose, as you're

alluding to, questions about about the innocent loss of life in all of this. >> no, absolutely. but but this is the trap that israel was lured into into from day one. hamas knew that this was going to be a nightmare for the civilians in in gaza. and that would be a nightmare for israel because it would be condemned , because it would be condemned, from left to right. so of course, this is it's hard to say how far should israel go, because, as you mentioned, hamas is not only a military, it's an ideology . and you cannot defeat ideology. and you cannot defeat an ideology. so israel will have to see how far it's willing to go in gaza until it needs to stop this war. yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> sam confino, thank you very much , now i'm hoping that the much, now i'm hoping that the sun is going to poke its head out this week. >> sort of half hoping because it's so warm in here. i'm hoping. i know a blast of cool air. annie shuttleworth has all the forecasts for you. all the details . details. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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>> 731. you're with ben and isabel on breakfast now. we've been talking a lot this morning about online safety for children. and today also marks mental health week. >> so, to mark it, a new first of its kind app to help support the mental health of 13 to 24 year olds with guidance is being launched today. >> founder of the app hidden strength , lindsay lunny joins us strength, lindsay lunny joins us now. good morning lindsay. great idea. something that i think even, you know, lots of adults could benefit from. tell us a bit more about the app . bit more about the app. >> so the app has been designed to allow children to be able to access free mental health support, it's been five years in the making. i have . a wonderful the making. i have. a wonderful tech team sat behind it and we

have developed this product in order to allow children to access the support in the comfort and the familiarity of their own home. >> so what sort of support have you identified that youngsters are needing ? you know, what are are needing? you know, what are the problems that they're crying out for help with? >> times are fantastic, but unfortunately , as we know, they unfortunately, as we know, they have huge waiting lists. what we've identified is that children, if you give them the early support in kind of you know, their low level concerns or kind of stresses and teach them the ability to deal with these situations, you can prevent thousands of children getting into crisis and which point can then obviously help really reduce use that burden on the waiting list system . the waiting list system. >> is that not what parents should be doing, though? talking to their children , asking how to their children, asking how they're feeling, asking how their day was? do you fear that maybe parents are too tied up in their own hectic lives to be doing that these days?

>> asking for a friend? >> asking for a friend? >> yeah, yeah, do you know what? it's the parents do an amazing job, i have two children, and they the digital world nowadays , they the digital world nowadays, how they communicate is via text. it's much easier for them to reach out and ask for help via text chat based therapy just seems to be the way forward for them . i don't think it's them. i don't think it's necessarily down to the parents, you know, not having the time or the ability. i think it's just more around, you know, the amount of support that's out there and getting it to them in a way that they understand , a way that they understand, obviously your app is for sort of 13 to 24 year olds and, you know, you've identified that a lot of those early teens do need the support that that you're offering. but what do you make offering. but what do you make of these increase in calls? and i think it's being debated in parliament next week to ban smartphones for under 16. this is something that's really caught my eye, because there's increasing evidence that youngsters just aren't able to

regulate and manage the content that they're seeing online. and would it just be better if actually you were able to provide that service for 16 plus? and actually we said to kids, you know, what have the old school brick, that means you can call your parents, let them know where you are. but you don't have this. i don't know how to pandora's box of harm. it's like handing your child a loaded weapon. ultimately >> vie, i agree with you, the challenge is by removing something in schools is it's not going to stop it in the evenings, or you're going to do is just allow it to continue and may even become worse in the evenings. i do think there needs to be more regulation around the way that children access the kind of social media platforms , kind of social media platforms, i know today in the papers, they've been talking around age verification. we fully support that at hidden strength. it was our top priority security right from day one, which is why we integrated an age verification system, right at the beginning of the development of the app.

but it's allowed. it's about trying to regulate it, in a more sensible way. i think by removing it in schools , it removing it in schools, it doesn't necessarily remove the problem . problem. >> what do you think about the idea that children these days are under more mental stress and pressure than ever before? are we giving them a free pass, do you think? i mean, especially young teenagers? people like to call the gen zers, you know, victims, but in actual fact, are they, you know, the cost of living that people can't buy houses? i'm talking about young people. now. are we giving them a hard time or are they justified in their complaints about feeling really, you know, under pressure ? under pressure? >> i think they're justified. you know , we have we've created, you know, we have we've created, a world with social media, which, by the way, i, i'm not here to bash social media. it's a fantastic platform for many people. but, you know , you're people. but, you know, you're adding pressure to their daily life. on top of that, you've got, as you said, the cost of

living crisis . you've also got living crisis. you've also got things like school pressure, exam pressure , you have career exam pressure, you have career pressure. exam pressure, you have career pressure. and then if you add into the world of social media and looks and the constant need to feel included and it's overwhelming the, the teenagers are completely overwhelmed. >> well, good luck with trying to change that and provide some support for youngsters. lindsay lunney , founder of hidden lunney, founder of hidden strength. good to talk to you this morning. thank you. thanks, lindsay much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up, norman and renee will be back to look at the top stories of the day in making the news. this is

us. >> welcome back. if you're just joining us at 740, and we're about to go through what's making the news this morning in the company of norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp. welcome to both of you. and

let's start, norman, with the story in the front of the express, which is mythbusting about the benefits of migration. net migration. are we being sold a lie ? a lie? >> i think what we're being sold by the daily express is an opinion column on the front page masquerading as news, because what people have to understand, and i used to see every paper, was a minister, and the same story was presented in so many different ways that you cannot assume that what's on the front of a newspaper these days is actually the news, rather than the editor's opinion. this is three pages of people saying that net migration has not been boosting the economy. there is no counterargument whatsoever in this paper from anybody else. no quote on the other side at all. the reality is, of course, that what happened was that if we end up with no migrants, i'm not in favour of what was happening in the moment, by the way, in terms of the migration numbers. but you know, the health service would collapse without people coming from abroad to service it. so would the care sector. >> sorry to interrupt. you're saying that's just an opinion piece. however, it is the latest ons, gdp . figures gdp per capita

ons, gdp. figures gdp per capita contracted by 0.7. and that's despite a city the size of birmingham coming here every two years. >> 1 in 5 brits are economically inactive as well. >> yes, that's true, but you can also listen to the office of budget responsibility tell you that we've lost 4% of gdp as a consequence of brexit. and that's one of the reasons that's a slightly separate issue. >> gdp per capita is the truest way to measure people's quality of life. so when you've got hundreds of thousands of people coming here legally, yet gdp per caphais coming here legally, yet gdp per capita is going down. that in statistic forms blows apart the myth that migrants are good for the economy. >> no, i don't think it does, because i think you've got to bearin because i think you've got to bear in mind as well that the opportunity for britain to export and to make money from its own production has been lessened as a consequence of the trade rules brought in from brexit. >> and i'm not going to let you go there, norman, on this one. i'm afraid so. we've been actually driving down our production of things for the last four decades, not just because of brexit in the last six years, 3.7 million net is

the figure that came into the uk since 2010. that is bigger than wales as a population . varne wales as a population. varne people are not silly. they can see that the previous governments it really started with blair decided , and actually with blair decided, and actually thatcher had a responsibility to decided to actually supplement business by bringing in people so that wages went down and stayed low. people that work in the trades will tell you that they can no longer make the same money in their trade, that they went to college for and trained for bricklaying, plastering that they made 15 years ago. because there is now always someone else from another country who will do the job cheaper. we have driven people into poverty by importing cheap workers. >> but the law has been changed, hasn't it? there's now a minimum wage requirement, £37,000, which means a lot of people aren't being able to come in and fill those roles. when we talk about net migration, you were talking about how the nhs would collapse. i think it's around and i might have this exact figure about wrong, wrong , but figure about wrong, wrong, but it's approximately around this number. around 30,000 come in to

the nhs, around 30,000 come to in the care sector, and it's 600 plus thousand who are coming in to prop up our universities. and i think that's the responsibility of tony blair, who over extended university. yes, he did. and we're actually having to take in these huge numbers of migrants in order to keep these institutions open, squeezing out british students from them. and actually all the attention goes all the time to the people crossing illegally where there should be safe and legal routes, should there not for those people who are genuine refugees. and instead we're talking and focusing on and should be talking about these universities. >> one of the things which are perfectly true is that the number of people coming in legally dwarfs the people coming in on small boats. i mean, the small boats is a side issue compared to the numbers coming in legally, but we don't have the same concentration on that . the same concentration on that. the other factor to bear in mind is that we've got an ageing population here, a natural ageing population. and actually one of the reasons why people come in or blair wanted to men in the first place, was to provide people who would actually pay taxes to pay for pensions, because if we didn't

have any coming in at all, then the population we're now seeing in china. as a matter of fact, the population imbalance would cause a problem . cause a problem. >> but we didn't build the infrastructure, we didn't build the houses, we didn't train the doctors , we didn't train the doctors, we didn't train the nurses, you know, train people here. yes you're right about care services, isabel. but actually, if we paid these people who do the most important job in society caring for our vulnerable, if we paid them a decent wage, then the people who are economically active might want to get off their backsides and do those jobs. we need to pay and do those jobs. we need to pay people enough money that it actually is worthwhile working, and instead we're paying as taxpayers for medical students to be trained to get the best education in the world. >> and then we export them to other countries and other health services, and then we have to pay services, and then we have to pay to bring in doctors from overseas. there's so many questions. lock them in. >> let's say, to doctors, 100, you've got to work in the nhs for ten years before you can leave the army . leave the army. >> or we could sort out a lot of those problems. >> then we've got to an agreement in the. yeah, there we go. >> right. shall we move on. shall we head to the pub. >> yeah. let's do that. >> yeah. let's do that.

>> because you know what we're going to do. we're going to go to the pub after the break. >> how about that? i need a nice. yeah a cool pint of cider. >> all right. see you in a mo.

>> hello. welcome back, 748. shall we get back to our news review with doctor norman baker? >> doctor, doctor norwich . >> doctor, doctor norwich. doctor, doctor, doctor. >> i've had i've had that site already . already. >> was that phd or was that a medical qualification ? medical qualification? >> i think, for right honourable. >> that's all right, norman baker and doctor renee honda camp. i've had that side already dunng camp. i've had that side already during the break, as you can tell, so we were going to the pub, weren't we? the front page of the mirror. so pubs will be allowed to stay open until 1 am. on match days. if england or scotland reach the semi—finals. >> oh, well, there you go. there's the caveat. yeah. sorry. do you know what? >> of course it's a good idea. look, our hospitality sector is, you know , on the floor. covid you know, on the floor. covid nearly killed it. those who have

managed to survive need all the help they can get. any big football tournament is a massive boost to the pub industry. the restaurant industry. of course we should do it. and for those arguing, oh, you know, people will get drunk or they will be encouraged to drink alcohol. we have to give back to people some personal responsibility. they need to be able to decide how much they're going to drink and when they're going to drink it. >> it's not quite as simple as that, if i may say so. and i speak having seen this at close hand and actually wrestled with this issue when i was a minister because i was responsible for alcohol policy, the home office and theresa may was a home secretary at the time, and there was clear evidence, and theresa may was of the same view that that if you give a blanket a permission for pubs to open, very late on these occasions and the football team loses, there is a significant uptick in the amount of domestic violence inflicted on women as a consequence, and therefore the sensible thing to do is to allow local magistrates, as they do at

the moment, to take a view on which particular pub should open late, according to applications to come in, rather than this blanket permission, because that will happen and you see the consequences in, in, in, in women have to suffer if football teams lose. that's the reality of it. >> sobering thought. there norman, can we talk about mandelson? he's obviously the famous labour spin doctor. and this comes just after rachel reeves went the day talking about workers rights, and what that will mean under a labour government. but he's actually well, he's been trying to stifle mass lawsuits according to this report, he's been he's been representing big business across the world, being financed by the us chamber of commerce. >> and no doubt making a lot of money as a consequence. and, he's his company, his firm, global counsel, is pushing the idea that those who want to take mass lawsuits for very good reasons, for example, against the post office or the equal pay action against sainsbury, the motorists who brought claims against vw. remember all those, they would be far more

difficult. the government at the moment is pushing through a legislation to make sure people can do that. go credit to the government for doing that. and he's trying to stop it. well, you know, the prince of darkness as he was really will be better off without him in british politics, i should say. just for the record, of course, that, back in the day, it was my parliamentary question which forced him to resign over the hinduja passport affair. what was your question, whether or not he lobbied on behalf of the hinduja brothers to get citizenship in return for donation for the millennium dome. >> oh, so you continue your vendetta by highlighting. >> i think british policy would be a lot better off without peter mandelson. >> it would. but let's not forget that if we get keir starmer, which is looking more likely every day, we will get blair and mandelson in the background, pulling the strings of keir starmer because they already are advising him and people shouldn't forget that if they hated the blair government, they're going to get it again . they're going to get it again. >> and also we may be talking about mass lawsuits. we may get one with the contaminated blood scandal, which concludes we should get next week. >> yes, we should absolutely get one. you know, these people , one. you know, these people, these poor people that got the contaminated blood when people knew people in power, doctors

who were using it knew for three years, it looks like that it could be given these people these diseases, hep c, hiv, it's a scandal. >> yeah . the telegraph had a >> yeah. the telegraph had a great story over the weekend about how doctors at certain hospitals here were getting commission from us pharma companies for choosing us blood instead of the much cleaner uk blood goodness, this is a really shocking story, norman. it's in our bulletin this morning. it's got lots of people getting in touch on your say as well. this morning a woman called the immolator shared monkey torture videos to global. online immolator shared monkey torture videos to global . online chat videos to global. online chat groups. i mean, some people are just unwell, aren't they? >> i thought it was right to raise this as part of the paper review this morning, because it's such a serious issue. i mean, i personally find it very emotional and sickening actually. what this what this woman and her people have done. holy, grisly or grisly. in fact, i think i should call her and the she ran a poll asking members what kind of torture should be inflicted upon an infant monkey. i mean, and they talked about issues like setting

them on fire, injuring them with tools, putting one in a blender. i mean, what is wrong with these people ? people? >> you know, it's actually absolutely appalling. >> i think very much should be. she'll have a serious prison sentence out of this. >> well, i hope so too. and i think people like this are a danger to society because if they can do that to a baby monkey, they can do it to anyone. we know that in psychiatry, children that can harm animals actually have a very bleak outlook in terms of their future, their social socialisation and how they perform in society. what worries me about this is this could be just the tip of an iceberg. and again , we come back to being again, we come back to being onune again, we come back to being online and social media. do we want our children seeing this? if our children see this, does it change how they behave towards animals, what they do to small children ? it's a really small children? it's a really deep and dark story and we need to know if it's the tip of a bigger ice. >> we do. >> we do. >> we do. >> we also know the link between adults who harm animals and those who go on to commit violent crime against other humans, quite often people who've hurt animals go on to murder and assault. so a very, very serious crime committed by

la grizzly, as you dubbed her there. norman, how are we doing for time? i think we're pretty much out of time for this hour. so we're going to say goodbye to the doctor and the right honourable, and we will see you again. doctor baker, just after 8:30. thank you both. for now, though. let's get a check on the forecast. it's hot in here. what's it going to be like where you are? here's annie shuttleworth. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. it should be a dry day for most of us. a bit of a cloudier start across the east coast . that's because some coast. that's because some clouds pulled in overnight. that should slowly start to burn back throughout this morning and into the afternoon. there could also be some cloudier skies across western coast into this afternoon, but i think many inland areas will see some long lived sunshine and it will feel quite warm in the sunshine. however, notice across northwestern areas of scotland starting to see some rain approach through this afternoon that will mainly be restricted to the western isles, perhaps

parts of the highlands, and it will feel a little bit cooler here with a bit of a breeze, but in the sunshine, highs of 21 degrees are expected this afternoon, so a similar feel to yesterday through this evening. that rain will continue to persist across the far northwest , turning heavy at times, but it will remain restricted to the north of scotland. elsewhere, it should stay dry overnight, but again we could see some mist and fog starting to develop . some fog starting to develop. some drizzly rain is also possible over parts of the pennines and southern scotland should be another fairly mild night, despite any clearer skies. so a bright start for many areas of the uk on thursday, perhaps some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear. and it's going to be another dry, bright and sunny day on thursday. however, across the far northwest of scotland, still skies will remain cloudier. rain should start to ease though , as you start to ease though, as you head towards the afternoon, with some brightness developing here as well. but in the sunshine, highs of 22 or 23 degrees, so rather warm with high uv levels . rather warm with high uv levels. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of

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age restrictions to use social media. >> prince harry is back in the uk to celebrate ten years of his invictus games charity today. but why has he been snubbed by his father, the king and the uk warns israel over the risk of warns israel over the risk of war crimes in rafah. >> as unicef says, 600,000 children face catastrophe in the region and chaos at our airports. >> as a nationwide e—gate glitch left tens of thousands stranded in terminals. left tens of thousands stranded in terminals . we want to hear in terminals. we want to hear from you this morning. if you were affected, let us know gb news. com forward slash your say. >> plus, as more details of the ministry of defence hack are revealed, should we be getting tougher on china? we're going to be debating that very, very shortly . shortly. >> and in this sport this morning, borussia dortmund beat paris saint—germain last night to reach the final of the champions league who will they play? will it be real madrid or will it be an all german final of borussia dortmund and bayern munich? of harry kane's bayern munich, of course, nottingham forest have lost their appeal,

to stay well, to keep their points deduction and the olympic flame arrives in france today. >> good morning. another day of sunny and bright weather for many of us. but will that sunshine last until tomorrow? you can find out all the details with me a little later. you can find out all the details with me a little later . on. with me a little later. on. >> good morning. welcome to the program. our top story this morning on the front of lots of the papers this morning, the times going with the headline britain leads charge to keep the young safe online. and this follows on from the regulator ofcom unveiling new age restrictions for online social media use in a bid to try and keep youngsters safer online. >> so social media firms will soon be required to introduce robust checks, including the use of photo id such as passports , of photo id such as passports, to identify children before they use their apps and websites. >> and it comes today as internet safety charity internet matters has revealed 1 in 7 teens have experienced online nude sharing abuse. >> crazy. and that's young kids

as well. 13, 14 year olds, not just, you know, older teens. gb news political correspondent olivia utley joins us now. good morning olivia , how has this morning olivia, how has this been received amongst voters , do been received amongst voters, do you think? is it a much welcomed idea? you'd think so. >> well, it's been warmly welcomed by campaigners. it is a pretty impressive set of measures that ofcom is bringing in the government. when it introduced the online safety bill, said that it wanted britain to be the safest place in the world to be a child onune in the world to be a child online and with these new measures, ofcom is trying to live up to that. the most dramatic change will be, in, social media, companies will have to tame those aggressive algorithms which which encourage children to keep looking at whatever content they've been looking at. which, as we know from the awful case of molly russell, a depressed 14 year old, she was she was targeted with depressive material over and over again, essentially bombarded with it because she once looked at it and her

father, ian russell, blames that on her suicide. so this will be the biggest change. these companies won't be allowed to use these aggressive algorithms. and also there will be really stringent , age safety checks at stringent, age safety checks at the moment will come as no surprise to anyone when children sign up to social media, they just lie about their age. they are asked to put in their date of birth, but a third of them are putting in adult dates of birth with these new measures, children will have to show photo id or else have an actual facial id. check now, on the whole, the online safety bill was pretty warmly welcomed by voters. polling showed that people liked it, but there is this sort of lingering scepticism , laws that lingering scepticism, laws that have been brought like in like this around the world, in the us and australia have ended up stalling because it's really difficult for legislation to keep up with how quickly these social media companies are moving. the problem of aggressive algorithms is only relatively new. it began with the dawning of the of the tiktok

era and other social media companies copied. this is a new problem , and the government problem, and the government seems to be fixing this problem. but sometimes with legislation like this, it feels a bit like playing whack a mole. you're always trying to catch up with this very, very fast moving technology . so as far as i'm technology. so as far as i'm reading it, i mean, campaigners are happy , but they are a little are happy, but they are a little bit sceptical until it comes in, will it be able to keep up with the pace of change? and that will be the measure by which it's judged. >> okay, olivia, thanks very much, fines of 10% of global revenue for 18 media companies or an outright ban. >> and that sounds a lot. the question is whether or not, you know, ofcom will be able to enforce it , whether or not that enforce it, whether or not that is even, you know, sort of a negligible amount, isn't it, to a lot of these big tech companies, you know, they'll be able to just renee previously in the last hour saying that these companies are just going to take the hit on the chin because it's going to be worth it in the long run. something has to be done. i mean, the number of suicides in youngsters and all the life long

concerns around having those nude pictures shared in an abusive fashion, what kind of impact that has on your life as you're just starting out? it's got to be absolutely devastating. >> yeah, it's a big worry for parents, right. shall we move on? some royals. it's been confirmed that prince harry, he's in town. he will not meet the king tonight whilst he's in london today. he landed in the capital yesterday ahead of an invictus games event at saint paups invictus games event at saint paul's cathedral. yes. however a spokesperson for the duke of sussex has told gb news it is unfortunately not possible due to his majesty the king's full schedule, adding that the prince is understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. >> well, let's bring in the former butler to king charles ii, grant harold, who joins us this morning, good to see you. gosh i mean, this feels like something's changed because there were, you know , hints and there were, you know, hints and indications that there might be another meeting, much like there was just for half an hour last time harry was in town . is your time harry was in town. is your reading of this that there's something going on behind the scenes and we don't know the full picture? or do you think it can be a genuine schedule clash? >> good morning to you both. i'm

not 100% sure. i think what's interesting is the king's obviously just returned back to his duties as such or lighter duties, and it is possible that his diary will be filled because obviously he's only undertaking so many things at a time. but i think most of us might be thinking with his son being in the country, you'd . want to make the country, you'd. want to make the country, you'd. want to make the opportunity to possibly see him and it could be as simple as that. the diary is not permitted. and also prince harry's diary might not be alone. it might just be clashing. but then, as you say, there's the question underneath there's the question underneath the surface is there still this ongoing fallout? because i also noted that prince william is also not going to see his brother, and neither of them are going to be attending the, the service at saint paul's. again, that could be because of their personal commitments in their diaries. that's completely possible. but i think when it's just when it comes to family, normally families , when they're normally families, when they're in a country do try to see each

other. so it does seem slightly strange, but it's not completely impossible that it is because of the workloads. >> grant you know the king quite well. you're his former butler, of course. how do you think he'll be dealing with the fact that he's is pretty much estranged from his, his son emotionally? what's he going to be going through? do you think ? be going through? do you think? >> i have absolutely no doubt that as far as that's concerned, he'll be devastated by the fact that that relationship has not how it used to be when i was there, the three of them were very, very, very, i should say the four of them, including the duchess of cornwall, as she was, were very, very close. and to see, and to follow what's happened over the last couple of years is even for myself, it's upsetting because they were very close, and i have no doubt that the king that is somewhat will be on his mind on probably a daily basis. >> and given how much we know the king adores his wife , and the king adores his wife, and the king adores his wife, and the comments that harry made about her in his book spare, do you think that that will be a factor in these strained

relations? oh, absolutely. >> i mean, you can't you can't put something like that in a book and make those kind of comments and expect everything to kind of be fine. i mean, obviously it's hurtful and it's interesting because again , if interesting because again, if for me it's very confusing because i always thought that they all got on and never kind of saw. it doesn't mean to say that those thoughts and feelings weren't there. it's completely possible. but it's just i never personally ever witnessed any of that. and i think that's what's very sad is that it's come to this because, see, they all got on really well. and it's sad that now this is a family that's no longer united as it once was . no longer united as it once was. >> what did you personally witness? just give us a sense of that closeness that you saw whilst you were in the household, up close and personal? >> yeah, just that they all got on, you know. and when i say they got on like any other family, you know, this is what i think sometimes people forget is yes, the royal family. but behind closed doors they are like any other family. they, they get together, they have meals together, they have laughs together, they have fun together. and i witnessed all

that. and i witnessed the fun times and the laughter. do you know what i mean? the laughter between, for example, queen camilla and william and harry and the kind of the kind of jokes and the fun side. and so that's what i mean. i didn't see anything different. and it doesn't mean to say that harry obviously had personal feelings and maybe are quite right. he didn't share those at the time, but it's just very sad that it has come to this because , as has come to this because, as i said, from my point of view, i thought they were all very close. >> what about prince william grant? he's away on duties, but his wife, the princess of wales, catherine, she's recovering from cancen catherine, she's recovering from cancer. he's not seeing either of those two either, is he ? of those two either, is he? >> no. and that's slightly confusing, because i can understand with prince william being away, maybe in kind of other duties as possible, that that's not going to work. but harry was very, very, very, very close to catherine. absolutely. i mean, they were completely the best of friends . and with what's best of friends. and with what's going on with catherine just now, you would have i would have

assumed he would want to see her. it is possible that because of the treatment and that kind of the treatment and that kind of thing, maybe being cautious, not having too many visitors, that kind of thing, that is completely possible. but again, i just it just doesn't add up. that's the thing. none of it really adds up. and as we know, the palace has obviously not really commenting about, what harry is doing, really commenting about, what harry is doing , obviously harry is doing, obviously there's been comments from the spokespeople, but there was no kind of clear indication as to how this relationship is progressing at all. and it is sad to see that that it has broken down and it's become, it's got to the point where it is just now. and i keep hoping, as i've said before, that this relationship will one day be fixed. but as time goes on, i'm beginning to wonder if it's a relationship that's beyond repair. >> i think we all share those hopes and concerns. grant harold, always lovely to have you on the program. thanks very much. i was talking about witnessing that banter between not only the brothers and the now queen camilla, but also princess catherine as well . and

princess catherine as well. and we all saw it, didn't we? in a lot of the interviews, the banter. yeah, well, not the fab four so much. i don't really associate meghan in that kind of banter bubble, but you just remember the ribbing between the brothers about who was better, who was worse, who was going to perform for the cameras and the sporting prowess. you know, it was part of what we loved about them is there was that sort of closeness that you could see, that they could tease each other publicly and get away with it. >> there was that fab four vibe in the very early days, very early days, they were going to do all their charity work together. they were under one household and then very quickly they split. >> of course, kate hesitated to share her lip gloss and that was it with meghan. yeah, if reports are to be if reports are to be believed, the time is 811. >> we're going to take a look at the other stories making the headunes the other stories making the headlines this morning, foreign secretary lord cameron has warned the uk is at risk of committing war crimes. >> israel, rather, is at risk of committing war crimes in rafah if they continue their latest offensive without a credible plan to protect civilians. global charity unicef. they've also warned the ground incursion into rafah will pose a, quote, catastrophic risk to 600,000

children currently taking shelter in the city. earlier, we spoke to shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth about labour's reaction to what's going on. >> there is a catastrophe facing us and the international community need to work to bring about that immediate ceasefire and bring an end to this horrendous conflict. >> the porn star stormy daniels has taken to the stand in donald trump's hush money trial , trump's hush money trial, describing her alleged sexual encounter with the former president at a golf tournament in 2006. it is just one of four criminal cases that donald trump is facing. earlier we spoke with the american criminal defence attorney joseph tully , the prosecution. >> it's a win because they get to muddy him up in front of the jury. but really, in terms of can the prosecution meet the elements of the crime , this had elements of the crime, this had very little legal significance . very little legal significance. >> and to worcester, where a woman has admitted to being part of a global monkey torture network, holly legresley . posted network, holly legresley. posted

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think? >> no, not with you on the steering wheel. >> okay, well, well, what do you think? so should we talk about paris saint—germain and dortmund? yes. okay. paris saint—germain nil. dortmund one, dortmund, who came fifth in the bundesliga, have turned over paris saint—germain . and i tell paris saint—germain. and i tell you what, they defended brilliantly . they scored as brilliantly. they scored as well. this is over in paris. so they they came through the group of death. they called it in the champions league, which had psg and ac milan were there, and newcastle as well , but they've newcastle as well, but they've come through that and now they are in the final of the champions league. jadon sancho we mentioned earlier. yeah, you know he's playing for dortmund and playing fantastically. should we go with the song again. do you enjoy the song right. yes. come on. yeah. the drinking song. and oh yeah i don't know whether i'll be able to, sing it the same as the germans, but there they are. there's the fans in paris with some of the players. they sing a song, where it's all about a dortmund fan that wants to go abroad and has to try and get out of work. all that happens a

lot. and he's hand he hands in a sick note and then he's. he says his grandfather's died and then he takes over time and then he gets sacked. and then at the end they sing, who cares? borussia dortmund are playing abroad. >> it's all very civil, isn't it? the germans know how to behave. i was at the. >> you know what the germans when it comes at dortmund and fantastic fans. i mean, you've never really got too far in the champions league so you wouldn't really know that. but the thing is, dortmund are fantastic fans and very, very friendly. >> we made a final in 2006. how have you know? did you and we were. yeah, two one against barcelona. but in germany the whole football scene is completely different because tickets cost £2,030. that's right. the stadiums are packed with genuine fans and the atmosphere is just incredible. >> it really is. and when you get trouble and you look at italy and you look at spain, you look at other countries. germany are very, very good. but there's are very, very good. but there's a rivalry between them. in fact, every other german team and bayern munich, nobody seems to like bayern munich because they're seen because they win they're seen because they win the league, they win everything and they're very arrogant. the way they are. but but they're going to be playing real madrid.

so that's obviously harry kane, who did he used to play for? i can't remember, but anyway, harry kane, who will be playing against, against jude bellingham for real madrid. so people are trying to build you see this in the papers. they're trying to build up some sort of tension between. >> and isn't it interesting how we've now got harry kane playing abroad? sancho bellingham's doing amazingly well at real madrid . is there doing amazingly well at real madrid. is there a doing amazingly well at real madrid . is there a case there madrid. is there a case there that in actual fact, if english players really want to achieve their potential, they need to go abroad. >> so i don't know, i think i think harry kane was an interesting matter of point and, you know, and i will be honest at spurs, obviously he wants to win something. i can't believe i'm actually talking to you about this. >> i would miss it. >> i would miss it. >> but but he's he's gone over to and it would be lovely if bayern munich and because the thing is they got knocked out of the german cup there, the bundesliga, they've come second. and so that's not very good. with bayer leverkusen winning that. so people are thinking, oh, the irony, the fact that he's gone over to bayern munich when everything they're not going to win anything. it could be the thing that he'd always want to win. and that's the

champions league. yeah. come on. so they've got to beat real varne. it's going to be we're going to be opposite sides again. so i would love i would love to see bayern munich beat real madrid. so it's two two and that's at the bernabeu tonight. so that really is going to be some game. >> great. and what's going on with nottingham forest. >> well they had that appeal against their points deduction turned down. so this was down to the profit and sustainability rules. they were allowed to lose £61 million. they broke it by 34 million. so they were given a points deduction which okay that's it. they broke the rules. so then they've gone back and said, well we'd like to appeal against this, but it was a unanimous decision that no, that points deduction stands. so at the bottom of the premier league where we've got sheffield united way at the bottom of 16 burnley 24. luton 26. nottingham forest 29. so it's going to be two of those. >> i think they're a really good side for us. it's a shame they couldn't take points from city the other day, but why is it always the smaller clubs? forest, everton who are getting penalised in this way when the likes of man city, how many alleged crimes are they committed? financial. true, it's true 68. >> but the thing is it's done on a different thing. this is on profit and sustainability. so the thing is that it can be

punished straight away by the premier league. that's the rules. and i know how you feel about man city. and we all look at that and think there's all these charges but that's being fought the whole time. so that's another situation altogether. whereas the premier league are allowed to go straight in and say, right, there's a points deduction at this point of the season for city would be much welcomed. >> let me tell you, premier. >> let me tell you, premier. >> well would it really? i thought it might be. there might even be. well we'll see how things go. finally olympics 79 days to go to the olympic games. are you looking forward to the olympics? you like you like them in the olympics? >> i do, i remember 2012 vivid memories of mo farah storming home. what were you six then? >> what do you remember all that 2012? >> i was , eight, nine, ten years >> i was, eight, nine, ten years ago. i was 25. >> right? okay, fine. >> right? okay, fine. >> 35. i know, i know, look 17, but i'm actually nearly 35. oh, go on. which plays into my hands. >> yeah, yeah it does. well, well, you wait till you get to my age. everybody thinking much

younger. so olympic 79 days away. and we'd like to keep up with the olympic flame which has been on board the 19th century ship which is called the belem. be careful how you say that. there it is on board the belem. it's taken 11. no, 12 days to go on ship from greece to france. that's a slow. there's not many knots on that one, is there? it is. anyway, so proper sailing boat. there we are. and there it is. there's. there's the olympic flame. is that it? that's it. >> i thought it was some extravagant grand bonfire. >> well, it will be with you all. >> you all desperately want to see pyrotechnics everywhere this olympic torch goes. it's. i love that it's this. like fire. the small flame that then is turns into this huge, incredible thing from one small flame. i think it's quite it's quite symbolic, i guess. >> well, yeah, that's sums up life, really, doesn't it. little tiny flame. and so anyway, then the longest torch relay in history. oh, by the way, this is, this is marseille. history. oh, by the way, this is, this is marseille . here. is, this is marseille. here. they're they're going early, but they're going to have huge celebrations in marseille when it arrives tonight. so and this is this is in marseille. there we are. they're having celebrations before the flame has even arrived. >> so that's a bit more impressive than it is slightly. >> you're even saying it yourself. >> you're saying how much you

like the little know that. >> that does look great. >> that does look great. >> there we are, ten weeks, the actual torch relay is going to take ten. 10,000 people will carry the flame . so when they do carry the flame. so when they do the relay, i don't know where they do, like two yards. each goes across 400 towns and territories, even goes to all the territories like guadeloupe and martinique and new caledonian . and reunion. so caledonian. and reunion. so i think they'll probably fly over there . there's not much talk. there. there's not much talk. they can't take the belem over there or us. it'll probably take a year to get there. so then they're going to do it started a little earlier. >> if they think they should have done, they should have started it before they even announced that they were going to get the olympics. >> but anyway, all begins today. so the torch relay begins today as it arrives in the port of marseille and stuff. >> very exciting, geraldine farmer mills on gbnews.com/yoursay has said, i used to like cuban leo, but then discovered you are an can't even say the word fan. arsenal fan. >> well, did she put gooner or did she say she . said she said did she say she. said she said can't even say she can't bring herself to. >> oh, she can't . >> oh, she can't. >>— >> oh, she can't. >> oh, she can't. >> oh my goodness me. and there was one for you paul as well saying paul seems such a great bloke and a funny guy. >> shame he's a spurs supporter.

was good to see you putting the bootin was good to see you putting the boot in ben. glad to be of service. >> yeah, right after that. what's your mum's name? >> thanks very much indeed, katie, for that. stay with us. coming up. friend or foe ? this coming up. friend or foe? this recent spate of cyber attacks, should we be sanctioning and taking china a little bit more seriously? we promised that earlier. it is. up

next. now, the defence secretary has told mps that the government is concerned about the role of china. they didn't name them specifically in this latest cyber attack. they said that they couldn't rule out state involvement in a hack at the ministry of defence . but as ministry of defence. but as i say, refused to confirm all the reports that we've been talking about over the last 24 hours, that it was actually china. so beijing, they have strongly denied the reports that they're behind the attack , saying the behind the attack, saying the accusations are, quote, completely fabricated. >> but we're going to ask the question nonetheless. should we sanction china ? how big of

sanction china? how big of a problem is it in the uk? we're joined now by defence and foreign affairs editor at the daily telegraph, tom coughlin, who believes we should sanction china, and the assistant editor at the spectator, cindy wu, who believes we shouldn't. good morning to you both , let's go to morning to you both, let's go to you first con, i mean, this isn't the first time we've heard about china potentially meddling in british affairs . of course, in british affairs. of course, in british affairs. of course, in 2022, barry gardiner, the labour mp beijing barry, as he was affectionately nicknamed, he was affectionately nicknamed, he was paid £600,000 by an alleged chinese spy. so just how deep does the alleged rot go ? does the alleged rot go? >> well, there's no doubt there's a lot of chinese meddling in the uk, and the chinese are very clever, unlike the russians who come here with their with their , novichok and their with their, novichok and poison people. the, the chinese keep a low profile, but they quietly infiltrate institutions such as universities and researchers establishments, they buy businesses . and we saw with buy businesses. and we saw with the whole huawei, scandal a few years ago when they tried to get

hold of our 5g network, that the chinese are very , very smart, chinese are very, very smart, now, of course, you know , it's now, of course, you know, it's only an allegation that they're responsible for this mod hack. but, you know, i think that people like ian duncan smith are quite right when we say that we need to upgrade our view of china as a, as a threat and not something that we can still do business with. and i just say additionally that, you know, the reason russia is doing is it has improved its military operations in ukraine is because of the support it's getting from china. okay. >> well, cindy, let's bring you into this debate then. you know, if we were to sanction china appropriately for what we believe, although it's not as yet been confirmed , would that yet been confirmed, would that hurt us as much as we were being led to believe by the prime minister who seems very dovish in his response to. i think there's been at least two confirmed cyber attacks this yean confirmed cyber attacks this year. we've had these two espionage chargings as well,

charges brought. so, you know, at the moment, i think it was ian duncan smith who said the sanctions we've been using so far have been like an elephant giving birth to a mouse. do we need to go further ? need to go further? >> what a lovely image. isabel, i think your word appropriately sanctioning appropriately is the main thing here. you know what is an appropriate sanction that's actually going to deter china, and frankly, when it comes to chinese communist party, the sanctions that typically are used is targeted magnitsky sanctions on people and on their property and on their travel is not going to hurt the chinese communist party because they don't have any links to the west when it comes to the high level card rates. they already have their passport held by the communist party. they are not allowed to hold property abroad. at least the parties , cracking down on that. parties, cracking down on that. really seriously now. so how can it hurt them? and i think that level of sanction, the targeted sanctions is not actually really going to deter, attacks like these, so the question is what

will help , and i think when it will help, and i think when it comes to cyber espionage, first of all, making sure that we don't have vulnerabilities ourselves, you know, asking questions about why this external contractor was used, where the vulnerabilities lie, whether or not other data for other government departments are also at risk, and just really kind of upping that defence because, yes, it's a dangerous world out there . and i agree world out there. and i agree with colin that china, you know, if it was incredibly friendly, i mean, if it was america, it might not spy on us. well, gosh, i find that i find that extraordinary, cindy, that you think rather than actually taking punitive action, we should just take defensive action. >> and again, i've got another fantastic quote from i think i forget the name, but it was an snp mp who talked about our sanctions last time is like turning up to a gunfight with a wooden spoon. i mean , it's wooden spoon. i mean, it's laughable. we have to find a way that that hurts china even if it huns that that hurts china even if it hurts ourselves. is that not the answer? because i suppose in a way china needs us economically as much as we need them. so perhaps that will be the only way to fire a warning shot, because then they will realise that their their economy will suffer and it is in decline ,

suffer and it is in decline, isn't it, con coughlin? >> well, it is , but i think >> well, it is, but i think cindy does make a good point. i mean, we have to look at the threat we face from china and prepare to defend ourselves against it. and, you know, one, one significant error area is cyber. one significant error area is cyber . so and you know, we do cyber. so and you know, we do have now a whole range of institutions we've set up to tackle this kind of threat. and it's very much part of, you know, the national security profile. but having said that, i still think, you know , just just still think, you know, just just to sort of take it on the chin and not respond to chinese acts of aggression, which is this is this is attack on our ministry of defence. and, you know , with of defence. and, you know, with this information, in the wrong hands , they can do a lot of hands, they can do a lot of damage. so i think, you know, taking targeted sanctions would send a message to beijing. i, you know , i hear what cindy says you know, i hear what cindy says about the impact it might have , about the impact it might have, but at least let's, let's let's make a gesture , and demonstrate

make a gesture, and demonstrate to the chinese that we know what they're up to and we do not see them as a friendly state, and we will treat them as such. >> the problem is, cindy, we don't see them as a friendly state. but china, in their response to these allegations and previously actually, they've always, i'd argue, patronised the uk by saying, why would we bother spying on the uk? you're so insignificant we dwarf you in all aspects. am i fair in that assessment in saying that, you know, the chinese view us as a, you know, just a fly, on their tail, perhaps , that's a really tail, perhaps, that's a really interesting point. and going back to what isabel was saying earlier about how we can just not do anything at all, i agree, there's nothing. it's not that we can just not do anything at all. but when it comes to the uk's china relation , frankly, uk's china relation, frankly, the uk is pretty small in terms of china's priorities list when it comes to china's trading partner. just in terms of pure volume, china trades more with russia than it trades with the uk . so for the for the uk to do uk. so for the for the uk to do something, it has to be allied with the rest of the west. you know, it has to be allied with

europe. it has to be allied with america and other five nations. so yes, we might hand—wring and say, god, we have to do something. but frankly, the uk isn't doesn't have enough leverage by itself. so that's why when we saw the hacks early in the year, revealed it was a five eyes united statement. and i think something like that holds a much greater punch than just uk specific sanctions . just uk specific sanctions. >> finally, we've seen xi jinping, president of china, in france . on a state visit this france. on a state visit this week. do you think that this incident and the allegations will have caused any embarrassment, given that he is so close to us just across the channel? con or do you think this is water off a duck's back for him? >> well, i fear it is water off a duck's back, but sinner is quite right. i mean, britain alone cannot, you know, tackle china. we need to work with their allies, and i think the fact that we, you know, we should make a song and dance about this right now, and embarrass jinping . i mean, the embarrass jinping. i mean, the chinese want trade. you're right. quite right. chinese want trade. you're right. quite right . you know, right. quite right. you know,

china, the chinese economy is being challenged. a lot of western countries are now thinking twice about their investments. and i think we do need to review our whole strategy towards china, especially vie how much business we do with it that will really punish them . okay. interesting punish them. okay. interesting con cindy, thanks very much . i con cindy, thanks very much. i was just googling there. how many chinese students come to the uk to study ? it's nearly the uk to study? it's nearly 160,000. so perhaps if there is a real risk of infiltration from china, we could do something potentially with them . potentially with them. >> although, do you know, what i found so fascinating is those latest espionage cases that were brought to court were both engush brought to court were both english people . yeah, but they english people. yeah, but they had been targeted by by the chinese, paid the irs. so how do you protect against that? it's a dilemma. let us know what you think would be the right course of action. are we being robust as rishi sunak would have us believe, or do you think we need to accept? as ian duncan smith has been saying, that we are at war with china? let us know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay >> still lots more to come. we're going to be going through the day's big

us. >> okay. we're taking a look at the papers and what is making the papers and what is making the news today in the company of the news today in the company of the right honourable norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp . if you missed hoenderkamp. if you missed earlier. little joke there because he got promoted or demoted. whichever way you want to look at it to doctor. >> no, i'm not saying it's a demotion, but you gave him incorrect title. >> yeah. so we'll give his correct one this hour, so let's start with you, norman. and this is a story from the mail online about women and the unpaid domestic chores that we're all chained to the sink doing . well, indeed. >> it's a story, actually based on the office of national statistics , which clearly has statistics, which clearly has nothing better to do, really, which is generated this time. use in the uk bulletin, which shows what we all do down to the minute in terms of how much time we spent travelling and everything else. and as part of that, it suggests that women are still working an hour longer than men around the home every day. yes indeed. >> and more than that, particularly bad in yorkshire,

apparently, where the men are laziest in yorkshire, according to the ons . to the ons. >> is it women? is it stay at home women or is it working women. >> i don't think it says, i don't think it says that. but i think it's just generally people who, who are. no, i think it's working women as well as my wife is a stay at home mum. >> now, she recently took the decision to stay at home. i said to isabel earlier actually she said what does your wife do? i said, i told her to stay at home. >> i said i didn't take that very well. >> i think you'll be careful because women who stay at home are working women incredibly hard working women, just doing it without a wage, you know, what we forget is, is that before we moved, women into the workplace, their job was at home to raise the children, look after the house, supply the food for the husband normally, and the husband's . job was to make the husband's. job was to make enough money to allow that to happen. >> and there's a lot to be said for that. there's a lot to be said that once we moved women out of the house into factories and wherever actually things got worse. they got worse for children because they didn't have their mum. we know that the best thing a child can have is their mum at home, or their dad

either way, whichever way it goes, i really am bored by these stories because firstly, as we said outside , how do they said outside, how do they collate these statistics by by area of the country that yorkshire men do the least? well, maybe yorkshire men work longer hours than other men in the country and that's why they do the least. who knows? certainly the man in my family works , you know, like a trojan works, you know, like a trojan to bring money into the home. and i work too. but, you know, he's not sitting on the sofa watching tv in the evening. he's working. >> here's a question for you. so your other half works like a trojan. do you still ask him to do household chores? is he happy to do chores when he's back the washing up, putting the kids to bed? if you've got young kids? >> i couldn't be here today if he wasn't getting the little one ready for school and he would happily do those jobs, and he's probably a bit unusual in that way that he actually would actively take part. but i don't have to ask him. >> i just to chuck my pennies worth into all of this. i do think a lot of what you said is true about how things have got worse. one wage does not suffice now to buy a house often smaller than a generation ago would have been able to afford. that's a

shame for our children, who definitely, i think, don't have enough of their own parents at home. and i, you know, not speaking for my own experience, my husband is massively involved around the house and with the children, so i've got no complaints . children, so i've got no complaints. but i still think the vast majority of the mental load does still fall to working women. so i work and i also do the lion's share of the school admin. the playdates, the party buying of presents, all the stuff it sounds minimal, the school uniform dilemmas, you know, the sporting events , all know, the sporting events, all of that. and it's a it's a big job. i wouldn't have it any other way. but i do think a bit of recognition doesn't hurt. >> recognition would be good i agree. but i think we actually need, as you rightly say, i think it would be if we could be, as you and your wife were, ben, where through choice, the woman stays at home, say, at least until children doesn't have to be the woman. >> i mean, you're a working woman. say women are man. >> earlier i did, but i do think that, you know, maternally , that, you know, maternally, that's the most natural way of breastfeeding in those early, early years. >> yes. >> yes. >> before we lose and win, before we leave the story just there's other aspects of this analysis which are worth mentioning. apparently people

spend 13 minutes a day only on sport and well—being, which doesn't sound very long. sorry, 13 minutes a day. yes. which is very healthy , but they spend 48 very healthy, but they spend 48 minutes on using computers, which i think is probably an underestimate. >> well, break it to you. you can do both at the same time. you can go for a run, listen to a news podcast or radio, or you can go on your peloton and watch us in the morning. i think it's a bit confusing for the odd s to do to incorporate. too tricky that you know what, as a mother who 35 years ago, my son is as. old as you. >> ben, went back to work when he was 28 days old, full time, and i'm talking seven in the morning till nine at night. so barely ever saw him because i had to. because i was the breadwinner to a mother who then had a child five years ago and have organised my working life around being with her so she didn't have to go to nursery , didn't have to go to nursery, the better. the winner from that is my daughter. >> yeah, actually, i'd argue as well that women who stay at home mothers most of the time have a harder job mothers most of the time have a harderjob 100, especially young harder job 100, especially young kids , 100. harder job 100, especially young kids ,100. when i come to work, kids, 100. when i come to work, it's a bit of a refuge. yes, because , you know, it's because, you know, it's relentless, it's thankless and

often they're little terrorists, aren't they? >> they never say thank you and they gaslight you all day long. but we love them dearly, okay. well, that got us going. that's a good debate this morning. let's talk about something a little bit less controversial. elon musk. norman, what's he been up to? well that's controversial i don't know. >> no, i was being silly. elon musk is demanding millions from british teenager 14 year old british teenager 14 year old british teenager, 1.6 million damages, because she's been selling i think it's a she has been selling a handful of 3d printed keyrings with the companies brand . and despite the companies brand. and despite the fact that in 2021, elon musk himself wrote on x or twitter, you can steal our name logo and we won't sue you, however , the we won't sue you, however, the poor 14 year old apparently is scared rigid, which is not surprising . surprising. >> but this has come after previous warnings from tesla and musk for them to stop making these keyrings. >> well , it doesn't say that in >> well, it doesn't say that in the story. that may be so, ben, i don't know, but what i do know is that it's disproportionate to what the offence is. >> maybe what musk should do is

sign her up as an employee for the future, because the 14 year old who's selling keyrings idea entrepreneur . entrepreneur. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> good idea. that's the answer. >> good idea. that's the answer. >> okay, let's turn from this one to a fake policeman who tried to pull over a female driver on the m1 by showing id. all this has all the hallmarks of sarah. it really does . of sarah. it really does. >> this is an interesting story. so this woman was on the motorway. she admits she was speeding. she was doing about 80, and a man in a car started harassing her, telling her to pull over, started waving an id badge at her that had the police logo on it. she didn't feel that it was quite right because he was being so aggressive. she carried on speeding to the next service station, where she pulled in and she reported it to the police. the police then made a catalogue of errors and decided that he was a policeman, and they put it into the police complaints system. however, as it rumbled through there, they realised that he wasn't a policeman, he was a contractor to a police site, so he had a badge that had a police logo on it, but he wasn't a policeman. by this time they'd lost the cctv footage that they had , and

cctv footage that they had, and they timed out the time that they timed out the time that they could take him to court. so they could take him to court. so they just had to apologise to her and go to him and give him a warning. and he denied all offences. so this man is still out there and it does say to women , doesn't it, that you women, doesn't it, that you really can't trust anyone flashing a police badge at one of my colleagues driving into work yesterday morning, we all come in very, very early was pulled over by a police officer just because her car was a nice car and they thought, what are you doing driving around at this time of night? >> but there is always this moment as a woman late at night, you know, are you safe to be stopped by the police? and it's such a shame that we even have to think like that. >> well, it's a shocking incident in many ways. but the other thing about it is how useless the police are in processing matters, which is which happens again and again and again. >> well, we had after sarah everard, many people were saying we're no longer going to be stopping for police if they're by themselves lone coppers, we're just not going to do it. >> and you don't have to. that's what women should know. you don't have to. you can go somewhere safe and call the police and say, is this a real policeman? >> top tip that absolutely . >> top tip that absolutely. where do you want to go? you

choose about rufus wainwright. oh choose about rufus wainwright. on go on then. >> yes. so this is quite interesting because it's brexit derangement syndrome at its very best. so he's written an absolutely rubbish play and it was absolutely panned by all of the critics. and it had to close it two months early. but he's actually blaming brexit because apparently after brexit brits have become very insular and have become very insular and have no curiosity vie and so can't possibly look at his play through the eyes which they should. now this is interesting because a couple of weeks ago, baddiel said that lorries were crashing into bridges because of brexit, and brian cox said that as we're going to get a trump president, we needed to reverse brexit immediately. brexit deranged derangement syndrome is at its height now. it's like dying rats, isn't it? that will always find that extra bit of energy . energy. >> we just we've had it for years, norman. everything that went wrong with, you know , a went wrong with, you know, a little old coffee shop down the high street closed because no one was buying coffee from them. oh, because of brexit. well, let's get oh there's lightning, because of brexit. we've had it for years. >> well let's get these matters in perspective. there is a brexit consequence which is a

reduction in gdp and there are issues about bureaucracy at the ports and so on. so there are brexit consequences. i rufus wainwright's musical is . not one wainwright's musical is. not one of the brexit consequences. i mean, it's not very good apparently. and so to blame it on brexit is like saying why haven't you bought my book? you know it's brexit's fault. >> but doesn't that show the madness? because in 2009 he had a self—penned opera called prima donna that flopped and had to close early, but that couldn't possibly have been brexit. but possibly have been a brexit. but now is. there a lot of now it is. there are a lot of people who voted for brexit, though, who say that it didn't deliver what they were promised and i think there is a legitimate debate about whether or not that's case. or not that's the case. >> think of some of the >> if you think of some of the promises that you were made, we go through some of the five things that we were told beforehand we'd get our money back and ask whether or that back and ask whether or not that happened. we could decide who comes into our country. we're not a huge amount of not having a huge amount of success could make success with that. we could make our laws again. lots of our own laws again. lots of people having problems with that. >> is that the fault of the mechanism of brexit or just the incompetent bunch of politicians who put in? well, what about what about what we were told is what about what we were told is what i'm trying to say. >> what about the bus or the logo on the side of the bus?

>> more money now than it's ever had £200 billion a year. norman. >> how much? 700 million a week. latest think tank figures have the nhs 700 million a week. >> what a mess it's in. >> what a mess it's in. >> yeah , exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> maybe because we've got uncontrolled mass migration. maybe migration is to do with the way it's been run. you don't think there's too many people here? i don't think. >> well, i'm not saying that. i'm saying that the nhs is not working properly because the nhs isn't working properly. same thing with migration . so they thing with migration. so they were the management. i think it's everything. >> when you're not funding funding properly and you've got too many people. of course. >> no, no, it's just to do with the whole range of things, including failure to deal with. >> thank you both. let's get some sunnier vibes with your weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. it should be a dry day for most of us. there's a bit of a cloudier start across the east coast that's because some clouds pulled in overnight. that should

slowly start to burn back throughout this morning and into the afternoon. there could also be some cloudier skies across western coast into this afternoon, but i think many inland areas will see some long lived sunshine. it will feel quite warm in the sunshine, however, notice across northwestern areas of scotland starting to see some rain approach through this afternoon that will mainly be restricted to the western isles, perhaps parts of the highlands, and it will feel a little bit cooler here with a bit of a breeze. but in the sunshine, highs of 21 degrees are expected this afternoon, so a similar feel to yesterday through this evening that rain will continue to persist across the far northwest , turning heavy at times, but it will remain restricted to the north of scotland. elsewhere, it should stay dry overnight, but again we could see some mist and fog starting to develop. some drizzly rain is also possible over parts of the pennines and southern scotland should be another fairly mild night, despite any clearer skies, so a bright start for many areas of the uk. on thursday , perhaps the uk. on thursday, perhaps some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear.

some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear . and it's fairly quick to clear. and it's going to be another dry, bright and sunny day on thursday . and sunny day on thursday. however, across the far northwest of scotland, still skies will remain cloudier. rain should start to ease though, as you head towards the afternoon, with some brightness developing here as well. but in the sunshine , highs of 22 or 23 sunshine, highs of 22 or 23 degrees, so rather warm with high uv levels. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> very good morning to you. it's 9:00 on wednesday, the 8th of may. this is breakfast with isabel webster and ben lyon. >> here's what's leading the news this morning. amid a rise in young people being bullied online, ofcom is . set to get online, ofcom is. set to get tough introducing new age restrictions to use social media. >> and he's back in town. prince harry is in the uk today to celebrate ten years of his

invictus games charity, but why has he been snubbed by his father? the king? >> the uk's warning israel over the risk of war crimes in rafah. as unicef says 600,000 children face catastrophe in the region . face catastrophe in the region. >> there is a catastrophe facing us and the international community need to work to bring about that immediate ceasefire and bring an end to this horrendous conflict and chaos at our airports. >> as nationwide e—gate glitches leave tens of thousands of passengers stranded in terminals. were you affected? let us know. gb news comment . let us know. gb news comment. >> you'll say, and we'll be looking back at night. one of eurovision seeing who's in and who's out. >> good morning. another day of sunny and bright weather for many of us. but will that sunshine last until tomorrow? you can find all the details with me a little later. on. >> now it's been confirmed that prince harry will not be meeting

his father, the king, whilst he's in the uk this week. harry landed in london last night ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games was launched. later on today, yes. >> however, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news it's quote, unfortunately not possible due to his majesty's fall programme, adding that the prince is, quote, understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. sounds like a snub to me. earlier, we spoke to former butler to king charles ii , grant harold. charles ii, grant harold. >> it is possible that his diary will be filled because obviously he's only undertaking so many things at a time. but but i think most of us might be thinking with his son being in the country, you'd want to make the country, you'd want to make the opportunity to possibly see him, and it could be as simple as that. the diary is not permitted. and also prince harry's diary might not be alone . it might just be clashing. but then, as you say , there's the then, as you say, there's the question underneath the surface is this still this ongoing fallout? because i also noted that prince william is also not going to see his brother, and neither of them are going to be attending the service at saint

paul's. again, that could be because of their personal commitments in the diary. that's completely possible. but i think when it's just when it comes to family, normally families, when they're in a country do try to see each other. so it does seem slightly strange, but it's not completely impossible that it is because of the workloads . because of the workloads. >> as grant, you know the king quite well. you're his former butler , of course. how do you butler, of course. how do you think he'll be dealing with the fact that he's is pretty much estranged from his his son emotionally? what's he going to be going through, do you think ? be going through, do you think? >> i have absolutely no doubt that as far as that's concerned, he'll be devastated by the fact that that relationship is not how it used to be. when i was there, the three of them were very, very, very, i should say, the four of them, including the duchess of cornwall, as she was, were very, very close . and to were very, very close. and to see, and to follow what's happened over the last couple of years is even for myself, it's upsetting because they were very close, and i have no doubt that the king that is somewhat will

be on his mind on probably a daily basis. >> and given how much we know the king adores his wife and the comments that harry made about her in his book spare, do you think that that will be a factor in these strained relations ? in these strained relations? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i mean, you can't you can't put something like that in a book and make those kind of comments and expect everything to kind of be fine. i mean, obviously it's hurtful and it's interesting because again , if interesting because again, if for me, it's very confusing because i always thought that they all got on and never kind of saw. it doesn't mean to say that those thoughts and feelings weren't there. it's completely possible. but it's just i never personally ever witnessed any of that. and i think that's what's very sad is it's come to this because, see, they all got on really well. and it's sad that now this is a family that's no longer united as it once was. what did you personally witness? >> just give us a sense of that closeness that you saw whilst you were in the household, up close and personal? >> yeah , just that they all go >> yeah, just that they all go on, you know, and when i say

they go on like any other family, you know, this is what i think sometimes people forget is, yes, the royal family. >> but behind closed doors they are like any other family. they they get together, they have meals together , they have laughs meals together, they have laughs together, they have fun together. and i witnessed all that. and i witnessed the fun times and the laughter, you know what i mean ? the laughter what i mean? the laughter between, for example, queen camilla and william and harry and the kind of the kind of jokes and the fun side . jokes and the fun side. >> so that was king charles's former butler , grant harold, former butler, grant harold, talking earlier about, well, the facts that today, sir prince harry, he's going to this invictus event at saint paul's cathedral . he's invictus event at saint paul's cathedral. he's going to be finished about 6:00, i think. and the king royal's attending either with him. >> just him. >> just him. >> yeah. quite telling. and the king has a garden party at buckingham palace that finishes shortly afterwards. but of course they're not meeting. yeah. >> we spoke earlier to kinsey schofield , who was speculating schofield, who was speculating about whether or not something's changed in the last few days because there was some sort of mood music that there might well be a meeting between the pair. there was last time prince harry was in town . sadly, we've been

was in town. sadly, we've been told now there isn't going to be one. has there been a fallout ? one. has there been a fallout? and i wonder if we will find out about that a little bit further down the road. obviously that's speculation, but it certainly feels as though relations are more strained than ever at the moment. >> i think he just can't be trusted from the king's perspective and william's perspective. his brother, he just can't trust him. i mean, the last time, what was the incident? the last time they met or the time before harry ran off to do an invictus event in amsterdam, and he gave her another chat to american television breakfast television, talking about his father's health. so i mean, how can you trust someone like that? and it's a shame because it's his son. but there's a lot more at stake than just a father son relationship . it's the future, relationship. it's the future, i'd argue, with the monarchy. >> do you think that if they don't reform and restore their relationship, the monarchy is under threat? i think that the monarchy or you think that he is just destabilising them as a unit. yeah. i think i think certainly meghan's intention has been to bring down the monarchy. i don't know if it's deliberate, but i definitely think that's been a consequence of what they've done. i think she from afar was sort of very admiring of the royal family, but just realised it was a lot of hard

work and not quite in line with her la lifestyle. >> i think meghan's problem was that brits, brits kind of see through people's intentions and the kind of the fake us. on hey, how you doing? have a nice day. whereas maybe in america she'd get away with that kind of thing. >> not here. let us know what you think. get in touch on our website gbnews.com/yoursay. we are reading them all. it's trying to find time to squeeze in reading them out. that is. the problem for us. but we do have time to ask you this morning. please, if you have time yourselves to get involved with our tric award nomination, we have been put forward. we're very delighted to say for best news program category with some tough competition, and we managed to win last year. it will be absolutely fantastic if we could win this year. and we're not the only ones up for an award. you can see the lovely eamonn holmes there up for news presenter along with our colleague nigel farage as well and camilla tominey for her interview alastair stewart interview with alastair stewart for of the year. so for interview of the year. so those are the nominations that we have this year. yeah, it's to all play for, so, but we need your help. >> of course, all you have to do is head to pole hyphen, tric award, .uk and all the details

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some of the other stories. coming into the newsroom. story. andrew pierce is in the studio. we were just chatting off off mike there. we will be talking to him in just a moments time. but the other stories making headunes but the other stories making headlines today involve the foreign secretary, lord cameron. >> yes. he's warned that israel is at risk of committing war crimes in rafah if they continue their latest offensive without a credible plan to protect civilians. a global charity, unicef. they've also warned the ground incursion into rafah will pose quote, catastrophic risk pose a, quote, catastrophic risk to 600,000 currently to 600,000 children currently taking shelter in the city. earlier, we spoke to shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth about labour's reaction to what's going on. >> there is a catastrophe facing us and the international community need to work to bring about that immediate ceasefire and bring an end to this horrendous conflict . horrendous conflict. >> the porn star stormy daniels has taken to the stand in donald trump's hush money trial yesterday, describing her alleged sexual encounter with the former president at a golf tournament in 2006 raised a few eyebrows. it is just one of four criminal trials that donald trump is facing , and earlier we trump is facing, and earlier we spoke to an american criminal defence attorney, joseph tully,

who told us about the impact it's having in the states prosecution. >> it's a win because they get to muddy him up in front of the jury. but really, in terms of can the prosecution meet the elements of the crime , this had elements of the crime, this had very little legal significance . very little legal significance. >> and elsewhere, a nationwide issue with border force e—gates at airports has caused significant disruption overnight at heathrow, gatwick and manchester were all affected by the outage as tens of thousands of passengers were left stranded in terminals , a spokesperson for in terminals, a spokesperson for the home office has revealed. the network issue occurred just before 8 pm. last night. the e—gates then came back online at midnight, and there's no indication it was a result of a cyber attack. >> okay, waiting not very patiently in the wings for britain's newsroom, andrew pierce and bev turner are here with us always waiting patiently, but we just desperate to chat. that was all i know.

isabella, you're going to clamour. >> you're going to be in the clamour to join the garrick club, which after 190 years will allow women members. >> i wouldn't turn down it. i don't know if i can afford it, but i would love to go. i don't like being told i can't go places. i think it's the right decision. >> you can go to the garrick as a woman. >> yes, but i would like if i want to be a member, why can't i be with a male member? >> but now, of course, the rules changed. >> are you going to be signing 7 up. up? >> no, up? > no, no, up? >> no, no, not at all. i think it's extraordinary that the guardian have got nothing better to do and nothing more important to do and nothing more important to write about , because it was to write about, because it was their big campaign. then the list, the membership list of an ancient men's club, which, frankly, no woman would particularly want to be. >> i wouldn't, i don't care, you know, you can't just blame this on on the guardian. i mean serious, serious, high profile members of the club and members of society quit over it. and high profile members of the club voted to change it. >> so and they weren't going to do that? no. and they weren't even bothered until they got publicly shamed. and it's the reaction to being blackmailed by the guardian as though they. >> well, sometimes that's the role of the press, isn't it, to force change tuc maybe to cover some mass injustice , but not

some mass injustice, but not about a men's club. >> i mean, can we not have our own spaces? andrew, are we just destined to? >> well, i have no problem with that. but there are women's clubs, of course. are they now going to be challenged by men ? going to be challenged by men? my prediction? absolutely not. interesting. because why would men want to join a women's only club? >> just ridiculous. >> just ridiculous. >> okay , what else have you got >> okay, what else have you got coming up this morning? >> well, andrew's very excited about prince harry being back in the country. >> i think the king is absolutely right not to bend. >> something's happened. what's happened ? because, you know, we happened? because, you know, we were getting horrible book. well, i know, but he's done horrible interviews. >> he slagged off his father every opportunity . that's what's happened. >> i know all of that. what i'm saying is all the mood, music and all the things we're being told is, you know, they might do , they might do, and they did last time he was here. so what's changed? >> something . yeah, you could be >> something. yeah, you could be right. so something's happened behind the scenes. the king, as we know , is got cancer. he's we know, is got cancer. he's having treatment. kate's got having treatment. kate's got having treatment. kate's got having treatment. i just think they don't trust him, and i am. >> i am not going to say a bad word about harry today. he's here for invictus games, which

is a remarkable event. next year , supporting the people celebrating the anniversary of those games. so what i'm going to do, you're a big carrie fan, are you? no, not normally, but i think on a day like today, we have to recognise this is what he did really well. was this event and also for the service. >> well, we have done that this morning. we've spoken to a former veteran as well and talked focused on that. but i do think there is a story that the royals, probably no royal, will be at the service this afternoon either at saint paul's cathedral, quite crucially . cathedral, quite crucially. >> andrew, he's not visiting, the princess of wales either. no she was nowhere near. >> we've also got richard tice waiting to come in as well to talk about the results in the election. an amazing research into childhood allergies. if you've got a child or a grandchild, you need to keep watching to see cures for childhood allergies to peanuts, etcetera. >> okay, we'll look forward to it. thanks very much indeed, to both of you all to come. >> okay. we're joined now by secretary of state for energy security and net zero, claire coutinho mp. good morning claire. thanks for joining coutinho mp. good morning claire. thanks forjoining us. first of all, let's just get

past our top story of the day about these new social media rules for companies like tiktok and whatsapp. they could be fined up to 10% of global revenue if they don't adhere to new rules that your government is pushing through. for example, ids for young children who want to sign up to the app. is this what the public want? is this what the public want? is this what we've been clamouring for ? what we've been clamouring for? >> well, sir, look, i was children's minister before this job, and when i spoke to parents, one of the things that they were most worried about is what was happening to their children online. so i think it is really welcome that we're going to be the first country in the world to have this landmark legislation . we're going to have legislation. we're going to have the strongest legislation when it keeps when it comes to keeping children safe online. and i think that's really important because if you look at some of the things that children have been accessing, whether it's self—harm videos or suicide videos, it is really worrying for parents. and i think it's really important that we're protecting the next generation as well. >> it's interesting, a letter has been sent to the prime minister and sir keir starmer by the parents of 11 children, whose deaths were linked to

negative social media activity , negative social media activity, and they've asked for the government to go further. they welcome the changes from today, but they say that there is a tide change. there is a public appetite for further regulation around all of this. and certainly as a parent, i've noficed certainly as a parent, i've noticed that there seems to be a bigger debate about perhaps the banning of smartphones for anybody under the age of 16. is the government considering this type of legislation? because there certainly seems to be from these bereaved parents. and indeed, you know, the worried majority really in this country, that not enough is being done at the moment . the moment. >> so we've taken steps to strengthen the guidance on banning phones in schools. that was something that i was very positive about when i was in the department for education. and gillian keegan has taken forward, and i know we're looking at everything that we can do in this area. it's something that many of us feel passionately about, including the prime minister, because we want to make sure that our children are protected online, andifs children are protected online, and it's not just about what they can access, which the online safety act will help, but

also the things that i think we all worry about is what is it stopping them doing? is dwelling in terms of socialising, exercise, all of those other things which we know are really important for their wellbeing. >> just pin you down on the particular point though, about smartphones for under 16, would you? personally, i don't know if you've got children, but would you've got children, but would you welcome a ban on smartphones for under 16 seconds? well look, i'm definitely worried about this area. >> so like i said, when i was children's minister, i looked at wellbeing and one of the things that i was really interested in was the link between how much time our children are spending onune time our children are spending online and their mental health. and for me, there was two things. it's what they could access, and i'm really pleased that we're doing that online safety legislation because that that will tackle that part. but it's also what it's stopping them doing. so that's the things that i care about. i definitely welcome government's efforts to act on this and make sure that we're the safest place in the country when it comes to sorry in the world, when it comes to being online for children. >> okay, claire, let's talk about this news this morning that the uk is the first in europe to invest in next generation nuclear fuel, a contract worth £196 million has been granted, which means we

will be less reliant on russia. can you just explain what it is, what's going on and why it's good for the uk ? good for the uk? >> so we're investing £200 million in capenhurst to create an advanced nuclear fuel facility. and the reason why this is so important is at the moment, the only commercial producer of this type of nuclear fuelis producer of this type of nuclear fuel is russia and putin. and we've just seen what happens when russia's been able to weaponize energy supplies , in weaponize energy supplies, in that case, oil and gas. and we don't want to be in that situation again . so i think it's situation again. so i think it's great that the but britain will be able to have its own facility that will contribute to our energy security , but also the energy security, but also the energy security, but also the energy security, but also the energy security of our allies. and to just make a wider point on nuclear, and i think that's important , on nuclear, and i think that's important, nuclear is going to be a really important part of our future energy sourcing because it's clean, it's reliable, it's stable, and also because we've got these new types of technology coming through small modular reactors and advanced modular reactors that will be much cheaper to build as well. so that's why

we're taking big steps to back nuclearjust after we're taking big steps to back nuclear just after christmas. we're taking big steps to back nuclearjust after christmas. i nuclear just after christmas. i said , at the largest expansion said, at the largest expansion of nuclear in 70 years, so that we can all have this cheaper, cleaner energy going forward. >> and critics say you've been you've been slow to back nuclear and that you could have made some of these changes sooner. but on the issue of this uranium enrichment facility that you are announcing, you know, this comes at a sort of juxtaposition of the story yesterday about chinese hacking or alleged chinese hacking or alleged chinese hacking. a lot of people concerned about national security. we are in a more unsafe world than ever before. a lot of people say that the way that the government has been handung that the government has been handling the issue of china, specifically has been, dovish, i suppose, to say the least . what suppose, to say the least. what assurances can you give to people that as we open and continue down this path of what has in the past been a controversial method of generating energy, that we are safe in the uk when we're not even prepared to stand up to those who are able to intervene in the mod, for example . in the mod, for example. >> well, firstly, i would just point everyone to the defence

spending that we set out a couple of weeks ago to increase defence spending. we're already one of the highest spenders, but we're going further to make sure that we spend 2.5% of gdp on spending. and the reason that i point that out is, as we made that announcement, we also pointed to countries like iran, russia and china. and we said this in the document, countries which had become, more autocratic and which were coordinating together in a hostile way. so we have called this out, and we are taking action to make sure that we're secure. but when it comes to our energy security, you're right. this has to be a priority for any government. it's my priority. and that's why i've been working to increase the british supply chain , which british supply chain, which means more jobs here, but also that we can ensure that the energy that we use in britain is made in britain. i think that's really important. and i would just contrast that with the labour position, which is decarbonising the grid by 2030. thatis decarbonising the grid by 2030. that is a target that nobody else has. no other country. the climate change lobby aren't even calling for it. and what it would mean is that you would increase your dominance on the current global player when it

comes to things related to clean energy. for example, critical minerals and batteries. and that is china, which is why it's really important we take our time with this. we've set out funds to boost our own supply, boost our own businesses, so that, as i said, we can create more of our energy infrastructure in britain. for britain . britain. >> okay, claire, just very briefly in ten, 15 seconds, what do you make of the garrick club being bounced into accepting women members? >> will you be applying, i won't be. it's not something i spend a lot of time thinking about to be honest. >> okay. fair enough. thank you. >> okay. fair enough. thank you. >> thank you very much , stay >> thank you very much, stay with us still to come. we're going to be looking at eurovision

break. okay. eurovision mania is officially kicking in. it was the first round of the semi—finals, which took place last night in ireland . semi—finals, which took place last night in ireland. bambie thug stole the show. you're not a big fan, are you ? a big fan, are you? >> no, she's. she's very

demonic. and, you know, goth , demonic. and, you know, goth, like, it's very strange, anyway, fans weren't too happy with the uk's olly alexander either, as some said, his vocals were too shaky. and, ellie phillips, showbiz reporter who's going to join us now? ellie? fans were also furious about his comments about the british flag. yeah yeah, he's not doing himself any favours really. >> olly alexander his performance yesterday. so the big five involved in eurovision automatically go through to the final on saturday, of which the uk is one. but he did perform yesterday so we got to see his act. it was amazing . yesterday so we got to see his act. it was amazing. in terms of visuals, it's this locker room that hurtles towards earth . his that hurtles towards earth. his mic pack fell off and he carried on like a pro, but his vocals were dodgy. and yeah, he's he's he's he's not a fan of the uk flag, which is interesting because in his warm up to this he actually wore it in a diamante kind of bra while he performing, so he's caused a bit of controversy there. you mentioned bobby bambie thug. now that's a big standout moment. so that's a big standout moment. so that's islands act, she performed well. they say,

non—binary act called bambi thug perform doomsday. blew in this demon costume. there was witchcraft on stage. satanic sacrifice. what people are absolutely loving it, saying it's the most original performance they've ever seen. and bambi thug has become the first irish contestant to make it through to eurovision final 2018. politically they wore makeup messaging, so a line of ogham , which is, the oldest ogham, which is, the oldest written language of ireland , written language of ireland, they had on their face and it said ceasefire , freedom for said ceasefire, freedom for palestine. they were made to remove it and were only allowed for it to say, crown the witch. and people were like, you know, why can't you say these things? no one would even have noticed. if you really are into it. >> so sorry to interrupt. you already got the politics kicking off already. we'll see more of you later on. thank you. for now though, it's andrew and bev. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. it should be a dry day for most of us. there's a bit of a cloudier start across the east coast. that's because some clouds pulled in overnight that should slowly start to burn back throughout this morning and into the afternoon. there could also be some cloudier skies across western coast into this afternoon, but i think many inland areas will see some long lived sunshine. it will feel quite warm in the sunshine , quite warm in the sunshine, however. notice across northwestern areas of scotland starting to see some rain approach through this afternoon that will mainly be restricted to the western isles, perhaps parts of the highlands, and it will feel a little bit cooler here with a bit of a breeze. but in the sunshine, highs of 21 degrees are expected this afternoon, so . afternoon, so. a similar feel to yesterday through this evening. that rain will continue to persist across the far northwest, turning heavy at times, but it will remain restricted to the north of scotland. elsewhere, it should stay dry overnight, but again,

we could see some mist and fog starting to develop. some drizzly rain is also possible over parts of the pennines and southern scotland should be another mild night, another fairly mild night, despite skies, so despite any clearer skies, so a bright start many areas of bright start for many areas of the on thursday, perhaps some the uk on thursday, perhaps some mist and fog that will be fairly quick to clear. and it's going to be another dry, bright and sunny day on thursday. however across the far northwest of scotland, still skies will remain cloudier. scotland, still skies will remain cloudier . rain should remain cloudier. rain should start to ease though, as you head towards the afternoon with some brightness developing here as well. but in the sunshine. highs of 22 or 23 degrees, so rather warm with high uv levels. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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turner rig. >> good morning. so prince harry is back in