r , right.7 christys tonight, right.7 >> everybody is scared about rwanda. everybody is not right about this. everybody say that it's not right . it's not right. >> i visit an illegal migrant camp. they are scared of rwanda. and. and you didn't like france? france is no good. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i don't know, like france . >> i don't know, like france. france are good. >> find out what happened when this man's claim was rejected. plus this myth to be debunked was that mass migration was an unalloyed good for the economy. >> and in the report, we've set out that that really isn't the case. >> robert jenrick bust the last myth on mass migration . myth on mass migration. >> also mp for dover natalie elphicke . elphicke. >> labour's shadow chancellor told the newest mp to f off and is a real thing. >> it's our birthday and invictus games foundation and we're all very excited and thrilled and given the state of the .world,there is so much more

the .world, there is so much more to do . to do. >> waltz king charles right to snub prince harry. >> and what is the title of the first volume of cs. lewis's chronicles of narnia to be published chronologically? it follows the magician's nephew , follows the magician's nephew, c.j. lewis, the lion, the witch and the wardrobe . and the wardrobe. >> find out why monty panesar political career is over before it even started. plus, i'm away that eurovision is weird. on my panel tonight is the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood. we've got gb news star nana akua and ex—labour minister bill rammell and what do you think happens next here? yep. keep your eyes peeled for that one. get ready britain. here we go. an exclusive with illegal migrants. next .

migrants. next. >> very good evening from the newsroom. let's take a quick look at the stories. leading the news at 9:00. conservative mp natalie elphicke has switched to laboun natalie elphicke has switched to labour, accusing rishi sunak of breaking promises. in another blow for the prime minister some of sir keir starmer's mps aren't impressed because of her previous criticism of labour's policies. downing street, though, has brushed off questions about whether rishi sunakis questions about whether rishi sunak is concerned and following now the second defection in under a fortnight, dan poulter made the same switch over the under a fortnight, dan poulter made the government's handling of the nhs. but number 10 has reaffirmed the prime minister's focused on the priorities of the british people . the russian british people. the russian embassy in the uk says new measures against its officials are groundless, and that the reasons given for them are ridiculous. moscow's defence attache is being expelled over claims he's a spy. several russian diplomat premises are also being shut while there will be new restrictions on diplomatic visas. the home

secretary says britain is trying to dismantle the kremlin's intelligence gathering operations, a move also supported by labour. we've heard tonight that andrew tate is being sued for damages by four british women who claimed he raped and assaulted them. three of the women reported the social media influencer to police over allegations in 2015. but the crown prosecution service investigated and decided not to prosecute four years later. it comes as the 37 year old and his brother are currently in romania, waiting to stand trial on rape and trafficking charges. a representative for the brothers say they both unequivocally deny all allegations , as a couple who allegations, as a couple who committed serial dine and dash offences, racking up large bills for food and drink before leaving without paying, have admitted five joint charges of fraud today. 41 year old bernard mcdonagh and his wife anne, who's 39, avoided bills worth nearly £1,200 during their eating sprees over a period of

eight months. the first venue they fled from in swansea , says they fled from in swansea, says it's delighted that justice has finally caught up with the couple after that restaurant lost nearly £300. and mcdonald's also admitted four counts of shoplifting items worth more than £1,000. the pair, from port talbot, will be sentenced later this month and some royal news. prince harry heard cheers as he arrived at saint paul's cathedral in london earlier for an event marking ten years of the invictus games. during the service , the duke of sussex gave service, the duke of sussex gave a reading in front of representatives from participated nations and injured service men and women . service men and women. >> there are varieties of gifts , >> there are varieties of gifts, but the same spirit , >> there are varieties of gifts, but the same spirit, and >> there are varieties of gifts, but the same spirit , and there but the same spirit, and there are varieties of services , but are varieties of services, but the same lord, and there are varieties of activities . but it varieties of activities. but it is the same god who activates all of them in everyone . all of them in everyone. >> meanwhile, less than two

miles away, the king was holding his first garden party of the season at buckingham palace , and season at buckingham palace, and we were told by a spokesman for harry yesterday that the monarch's full program meant that the pair won't be seeing each other during his short return to the uk . that's the return to the uk. that's the latest from the newsroom for now. i'll be back with another update at 10:00. until then, you can sign up for gb news alerts. just scan the code on the screen and go to our website gb news. com slash alerts. >> welcome along. so it's been revealed that the home office has lost 21,000 illegal immigrants. well, i know where some of them are living . so some of them are living. so i went to visit a small encampment in west london. the amount of people here varies day to day, as do their stories, and i spoke to one sudanese man who has had his claim for asylum rejected. he told me initially his journey to britain . why did he leave

to britain. why did he leave france to come to britain? >> could he have had a first time in libya, libya, tunisia, algeria, morocco, italia , france? >> and you didn't like france? france is no good. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i come here, i don't know, like france . france are good. like france. france are good. >> he's good. yeah. he's good, but he could like, come here. yeah. >> he's come through libya, tunisia , variety of different tunisia, variety of different european countries. he said france was all right but obviously wanted to chance his arm over here. clearly a lot of these people are just bumbling around europe and then they end up in britain. so as i said, his claim was rejected. here's what happened. and where were you staying when you first came to britain? was it in a hotel or hotel? >> a hotel like a come get? well, one year? wow. one year in the actual in a hotel in acton for a year and then they said you've been rejected. >> yeah. and you left and lived.

yeah. lived here. >> yeah. yeah. okay. yeah. tell him we just go . you we don't him we just go. you we don't have any, you know, interview with you or something. just go out . out. >> so he had his claim rejected by the home office. he was living in a hotel, and they just told him to leave . so now he told him to leave. so now he lives in a tent on a roundabout. i mean, it raises serious questions as to whether or not there is any attempt to deport people whose claims are rejected or whether we just unleash them into the wild. i mean, it wouldn't actually be that hard to get him to leave. >> i know he said he won't. >> i know he said he won't. >> now , out, back up. >> now, out, back up. >> now, out, back up. >> you want to go now? >> you want to go now? >> good. yeah. >> good. yeah. >> you go. i slip into my family . better in the here alone and not safe. everyone told me. everyone fight me. everyone. don't be safe here you go. he say i don't anymore want this country. >> he wants to go home. then

there's this chap from kuwait and he tells me that he came to britain. and he ended up living in one of these tent camps as well. >> when he told him, give him the judge. >> the judge. >> the judge. >> yeah, yeah. sorry. yeah, yeah, the judge and, he give me the paper after before like one years now. and, when he give me the paper, he told me go out now in the british cross. i live with, share house. he give me just two weeks and he tell me after two weeks you must go out. i say, where i go, he say, go to the council, i say, okay, i go the council, i say, okay, i go the council. the council. tell me bayesians. we have problem about, yeah, about the problem. >> so he told me that he paid for a fake passport and he flew in from kuwait and landed at an airport in britain and then claimed asylum. but here's the big question . is rwanda a big question. is rwanda a deterrent? so are illegal migrants scared of being sent to rwanda and will it stop them crossing the channel rather, you

would rather go to sudan than rwanda . rwanda. >> rwanda, sudan, sudanese go to sudan. yeah. no go rwanda. why run the country? why do you go rwanda? yeah. >> yes. everybody is scared about rwanda. everybody not right about this. everybody say that it's not right if i come from my country. your country? why you send me another country? another country, different language, different religion, different everything . why so? different everything. why so? >> yes, it is a deterrent, he says. everyone is scared of rwanda. there obviously is, you know, a sense of entitlement there though, isn't there? which is that he's made it to britain, so he should have the opportunity to stay. that second chap there from kuwait, he says he has been granted asylum. so the other issue there is you've got people who've been rejected who are just unleash onto the streets that man who was accepted. and because we don't have anywhere for them to live. surprise surprise, he's also on the streets. this is something that many people could have seen coming a mile off. these clips

do raise serious issues. are we actually making any attempt to keep tabs on people we've rejected? i guarantee you that camps full of illegal migrants will pop up in every major uk city. that's the direction of travel, isn't it? are we being proactive enough as well? this is the other question the government should be going around these camps filming it and then showing the footage to people waiting on the other side of the channel and telling them, this is what you get if you come to britain, a tent on a roundabout, or rwanda . let's get roundabout, or rwanda. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood . conservatives, mark littlewood. i've also got gb news, star nana akua and x labour big dog bill ram. all right, look, mark, i'll start with you on this. yeah. some really quite serious questions there. i suppose the first one is, does it look as though the rwanda plan is working? i mean, neither of them wanted to go. >> yeah, i mean patrick useful. but at this stage , anecdotal but at this stage, anecdotal evidence, of course, the labour party criticises the uganda plan

because it's expensive, but it's intended to be a deterrent. we spend a lot on deterrence in pubuc spend a lot on deterrence in public policy. spend a lot on deterrence in public policy . our criminal public policy. our criminal justice system is based on on deterrence . from what we're deterrence. from what we're seeing, it will take time to actually get a data set . it is a actually get a data set. it is a deterrent. but i think what your interviews there show , patrick, interviews there show, patrick, is that our immigration and asylum system is completely broken. i mean, all sorts of little anecdotes there that absolutely send chills down my spine. this guy was in a hotel in acton for a year, a year? how on earth can it take the authorities that to long process authorities that to long process a claim? should be days, maybe a few weeks if i'm generous. so whatever you think our asylum and immigration policy should be, and you can have a genuine philosophical argument about that, you have to be able to execute it. and at the moment, the british government and the british authorities can't, that other guy from kuwait, i mean, we've got more footage there, obviously, but he says he initially when he landed here was sent to a hotel in liverpool. >> then he was sent to chelsea,

then he was sent to one in brent cross and then he was accepted and but obviously there's nowhere for him to actually live. so now he's, he's there on, on the roundabout. now the concern for me is that other guy there who had his claim rejected. they just told him to just leave and he said he's had no interaction with no attempt to get hold of him at all. >> well, this is just the ridiculous and actually the labour party who said that they'd get rid of rwanda. rwanda is the third, a third country, and we will always need third countries. a for people in specifically who we don't know where they've come from because they may have not told us or they may have not told us or they may, may maybe they can't go back. and b for people like him who maybe don't want to go back to the home country, but have failed asylum, so he's failed asylum, he's still here and he is just a tiny, tiny microcosm of all of the others who have failed. and the worst thing is for the ones who are quite savvy, they'll then do appeals, appealing again and again, which we are paying, by the way, for those legal appeals repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly. and then there's a whole industry around all of

that. some dodgy lawyers, some weird little charities that are keeping all of this afloat under the guise of supposedly doing something good. >> bill, if look, i mean, we can pick the bones out of that and we are doing. but one of the things is they obviously are quite intimidated by the rwanda plan. and if labour does remove that , i would plan. and if labour does remove that, i would argue that that would just send an even bigger green light to people to come how. >> now. >> well, i really don't think rwanda is a credible deterrent. you know, it's going to take about 300 years to clear the backlog based upon the numbers that are going to be sent to rwanda. if you've got people coming thousands of miles across the world and you've got a 0.77% chance of being sent to rwanda, that's really not they're all scared of it, though. yeah well, you know, it's anecdotal. a few people you know, since rishi sunak who would hold on since since rishi sunak announced victory two weeks ago, there's 2400 people who've come across in boats across the channel. but the system is a mess. you know, the system is a mess. you know,

the home office , john reid said the home office, john reid said back in, you know, the mid 2000 that the home office is unfit for purpose . there's no for purpose. there's no coordination, there's no tracking of migrants in terms of where they go. and the biggest lack of deterrent is that you can come here as an asylum seeker. your case will take years to process and you can disappear into the black economy. that is not deterrent. >> i mean , we are at this rate >> i mean, we are at this rate of asylum seekers now. these things are going to keep popping up everywhere , aren't they? up everywhere, aren't they? i mean, this is what we're going to get, which is tent cities of people, both of whom have been either accepted or rejected with nowhere to go and no one, no one really making any attempt to contact them. >> yeah. i mean, a point of agreement between bill and myself. you can argue about the rwanda plan. yes or no, but it's only a very, very small part of even if you if even if you think it's part of the solution, it's only part of the solution. the idea, as i say, that this guy was just discharged from a hotel . sorry, your systems failed. i mean, you know what's the plan?

to deport him? this is hopeless. did you say in your report, patrick? 21,000 people, 1000. so i'm rival with bill, the home office doesn't really seem to be fit for purpose. i think it's got to be broken up into different parts. >> but they're partly doing it deliberately, weren't they? i mean, i think there was one time where there were processing nine people a week. i mean, it's absurd. and part of it was their whole sort of initiative to try and get rid of this current government. that was all part of it. so will they be any better under labour? >> will they were under the last labour government, and i'm not saying throughout the third. no, but hold on, i'm not saying it was perfect during 13 years of labour government, but in about 4 or 5 we recognise we didn't have control of the system and we dramatically reduced numbers by the time we left office. >> one thing i will say about about those two chaps, they're okay, is that whichever way you dress this up there has to be an element of personal responsibility, particularly the guy from sudan. i was talking to him about all of the different countries he got through france, he said was basically fine. he

would rather go back to sudan than live here. i absolutely couldn't get to the bottom of exactly what he was fleeing in sudan, which were i do appreciate there are problems, but he had numerous different opportunities to tell me that on camera. and didn't the guy from kuwait didn't make any case whatsoever for what he was actually fleeing from? you know, when you look at this now, you think there are people who yeah, you can have sympathy towards them. but i wonder, mark, whether or not they have to take some accountability for their own actions. they have travelled right the way across europe in the case of that guy from sudan, and he has ended up on a roundabout in paddington. >> yeah. listen, patrick, i think you've hit the nail on the head here. look, there are people fleeing, desperate persecution whose lives are at risk. but we've got to take a risk. but we've got to take a reasoned and calm judgement about what proportion of them are amongst those actually seeking asylum. it's possible that they really are fleeing for fear of losing life and limb. but all of the rules we set up were basically set up in the wake of the holocaust, of the jews in the second world war. i mean, an absolutely catastrophic , diabolical event where we

obviously provided safe haven . obviously provided safe haven. it now seems rather flimsy. claims are being put forward. now we need to be humanitarian about this, but i think we also need to take a hard headed view that people are gaming the system to get here, when in fact they're not fleeing persecution and their lives are at risk. a good number, okay, well, well, look, i have got an interview a little bit later on with tough talking now, conservative mp robert jenrick, who says that uncontrolled mass migration, this is the legal side of things is making the uk much, much poorer . poorer. >> just myth to be debunked was that mass migration was an unalloyed for good the economy. and in the report we've set out that that really isn't the case. >> plus, have labour made a major misstep by allowing ex—tory natalie elphicke into their ranks and widdicombe hits out at that very soon. but up next, should the king have made time to see prince harry during his visit to the uk, journalist and broadcaster lowri turner goes head to head with former

royal correspondent at the daily express, richard palmer is patrick christys tonight we're on

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up and whitcomb's unrivalled analysis on natalie elphick's defection to the labour party, which is, i think, one of the most bonkers political decisions of recent times . and that really is saying times. and that really is saying something. but first, should the

king have seen prince harry dunng king have seen prince harry during his visit to the uk? it's time now for the head to head . time now for the head to head. so king charles served up a double blow to his son this week by not only refusing to meet him , but also making prince william colonel in chief of harry's old regiment. yeah, you hate to see it, don't you? the king last met prince harry in february following his cancer diagnosis. but today the duke of sussex arrived at saint paul's cathedral for an invictus games service ahead of travelling to nigeria with meghan markle . nigeria with meghan markle. harry's spokesman said this in response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not the duke will meet with his father while in the uk this week, it's unfortunately will not be possible due to his majesty's full program. the duke , of full program. the duke, of course, is understanding of his father's diary of commitments and various other priorities. that's the key bit, i think, isn't it? various other priorities and hopes to see him soon. so look, tonight i am asking should the king of manuel hassassian. to the uk? let me know your thoughts. head to

gbnews.com/yoursay tweet me @gbnews. while you're there, make sure you vote in our poll . make sure you vote in our poll. but first going head to head on this. our former royal correspondent at the daily express, richard palmer, and journalist and broadcaster lowe lowry, i'll start with you . do lowry, i'll start with you. do you think that king charles should have made more time for harry, or is he well within his rights to sell him to swivel? >> no, he's absolutely within his rights. i mean, i think that , it's quite elegantly done. he hasn't really hit back directly at any of the appalling things that harry's gone on the record of saying about his family , of saying about his family, particularly camilla, particularly, kathy anne, but he's just said, unfortunately, we haven't quite got the time to see you while you're here. and i think that tells a very that's that's a megaphone in a very kind of quietly elegant way to say you're not welcome . i think say you're not welcome. i think the fact that harry thinks he can just jet in, have a quick meeting with the with, his

father and then jet out again. that's not the way you do things when your father is king richard. >> he's been completely and utterly arrogant, hasn't he? and he's got what he deserved, i think. i think we'll go. we'll go, sir. richard. sorry. >> lowry. family. we'll go. >> lowry. family. we'll go. >> we'll go to richard. we'll go to richard, and then i'll come back to you. sorry. i know you're chomping at the bit, but yes. go on. richard >> hi, patrick, yeah. i mean, this is a really strange scenario for me because i've been accused of all sorts of things by harry's fans over the last few years, like most royal correspondents. but i was really surprised that the king didn't make a short amount of time available to meet harry. and, and actually, i think it's probably a bit of a mistake , not probably a bit of a mistake, not for any reasons of state or the, you know, the future of the monarchy as an institution or anything like that. but just because as a family, inevitably sooner or later they're going to have to build bridges again and, and try to get on as a family and, and i thought that when harry came over in february , it

harry came over in february, it looked as if that was the first step towards doing that . and step towards doing that. and certainly i was told by people close to the king that , you close to the king that, you know, you should. you saw pictures of him smiling, coming out, coming out of the meeting. so, you know , i think i was so, you know, i think i was certainly led to believe that the king was happy that he'd met harry. and so i'm really puzzled what's happened between then and now. how. >> now. >> yeah. i mean, with respect, is it not quite obvious what's happened, larry? i mean, harry hasn't actually made time for his father here at all. he's come over for the anniversary of the invictus games. so it's completely self—serving from the want away prince , isn't it? want away prince, isn't it? really? and he's expecting his cancer stricken father to fit around his plan. >> well, of course you mentioned the cancer and i think that's very relevant. i think, you know, nothing concentrates the mind like being diagnosed with cancen mind like being diagnosed with cancer. and maybe he's taken a leaf out of harry's californian book and thought about, i don't need toxic influences in my life at the moment, and maybe harry's at the moment, and maybe harry's a bit of a toxic influence.

certainly camilla probably thinks so. he wants to keep his life simple , he needs to life simple, he needs to concentrate on getting better. and i think, you know, i think there is a. term going to be on charles's terms. that's what i would say this is about. >> yeah. it's got to be on charles. i mean, richard, look, you know, if he if he really was that desperate to see his father, he could have flown in a week or two before he could have gone into some kind of quarantine if he knew that his dad's immune system was down, he could have, you know, shielded like the bad old days and then gone and met him. but he's not. he said, look, dad, i'm here now. i've just got off a jet. i've just come from california. come on, see me. >> well, i think i think his his trip over here has been arranged for, for some time. so i think all sides could have arranged a meeting, even if it was half an houn meeting, even if it was half an hour. 8:00 this morning. for argument's sake , if they. if the argument's sake, if they. if the king had wanted to. and you know, i agree with larry that the king is sending a strong message here. i mean, i don't think anybody is really buying the idea that he just doesn't have time to meet his son, i, he

has had a very full programme of events today and yesterday the king. but even so, yeah , there king. but even so, yeah, there was time over breakfast time over dinner, whatever , i suspect over dinner, whatever, i suspect that part of the problem is the mixed signals. all of this could be sending harry and meghan are going off to nigeria at the invitation of the nigerian government. they're not representing the uk. they're not representing the uk. they're not representing the uk. they're not representing the british monarchy. and i suspect part of the problem is, is if there are pictures of the king meeting harry and then harry arrives in nigeria saying, my father sends his regards , that is sending his regards, that is sending a very mixed message to the nigerian government. so yeah, that could well be part of the problem. >> yeah. and i think you've hit a point there, which is a question of trust. i mean, laurie, the last thing the king needs now is for a private conversation behind the scenes to find its way into the latest episode of a netflix programme. well exactly. >> i think, you know, we're all wondering when's the next documentary going to be made, when's the next book going to be written? i mean, we were all a bit flabbergasted in speyer when

he went to such incredible detail about family spats. and i think there is a certain element of trust now, how much of what is said to him will remain private if it's said by the king? so yeah, he's got to rebuild a lot of that. i also think that that trip to nigeria is maybe the thing that's changed things, because that does look like a sort of, you know, other royal court. he's establishing . i mean, i don't establishing. i mean, i don't think it's appropriate he should be going to nigeria because he goes as a royal, and yet it's not an official royal visit. so i'm quite surprised he accepted. and i'm sure the palace are not happy about that one. >> no, indeed. i mean, i think the, the double snub really is that prince william is now colonel in chief of prince harry's old regiment. richard i mean, again, the timing of that is absolutely impeccable. i mean, is he not wiping harry's nose in his own mess here? >> it certainly feels like that. i think the announcement was made in august that, william would become colonel in chief of his regiment, but the actual handover is happening on may the 13th to announce it. while

harry's here feels like it's humiliating. harry really ? and humiliating. harry really? and then there's a third, snub, if you like , the fact that the you like, the fact that the royal family didn't send anybody today to saint paul's cathedral for the invictus ceremony , for the invictus ceremony, johnny mercer, the minister for veterans , was there. so the veterans, was there. so the british government was represented. and, you know, i think harry has faced a lot of justified criticism over the last few years. but he does deserve praise for the idea of setting up the invictus games. i think it's one of the best things, probably the best thing he's ever done. and to me, it's surprising that not a single representative of the british royal family was there today . royal family was there today. >> yeah, indeed. look, both of you.cani >> yeah, indeed. look, both of you. can i just say a massive thank you? great stuff and good to have both sides of it. so well done. that was of course, low return of that journalist and broadcaster and richard palmer, the royal correspondent former at the daily express. thank you both of you. so who do

you agree with. all right. was the king right to snub harry? should he have made time for his son sadie on excess? it's a moment the king will never get back. okay maybe. maybe he didn't want to get it, though. i suppose john says. do we know that prince harry even wanted to see his dad? maybe the question could equally be, should prince harry have made time to see the king during his visit to the uk? i agree with you. if you really wanted to see your dad, who's presumably his immune system isn't great, i am aware he's meeting people. but you would come in earlier, wouldn't you? you wouldn't just fly in and go, come on then, see me now. if he knew his father's schedule was as busy as it is, he could have worked around it, couldn't he? june says, give the king a break. he's trying to do his duty to his country. while suffering with cancer, harry is deserted. it and says his home now is america. yeah, i agree with you. well, look, your verdict is in 20% of you, just 20% of you think that the king should have made time. 80% of you say he was right. not to see his son. yeah. there we go. coming up. could robert jenrick no nonsense migration plan save the tories from electoral

oblivion be done immediately? >> the package that we've we've set out here could be done before the general election. >> yeah, indeed. look, we've heard the argument, haven't we, that we're we're culturally enriched by record levels of mass migration, that our society has been made richer in more ways than one. well, i think the final myth is about to be absolutely shattered right here on this show at 10 pm, we'll be heanng on this show at 10 pm, we'll be hearing from robert jenrick plus the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine is being withdrawn worldwide after they admitted last month in court that it can cause rare side effects. well, well, well i'll have the full report for you in just a moment. but next, in a move that sent westminster into a tailspin right wing. and can i just say very right wing tory mp natalie elphicke has sensationally defected to labour. so just what is she thinking? and is she now damaged goods for keir starmer

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up, the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine . well, astrazeneca covid vaccine. well, it's being withdrawn worldwide. we will take a look at the ramifications. and we're also going to revisit some of the things that were said about this vaccine at the time. but first, sir keir starmer just couldn't wait to let the cat out of the bag at prime minister's questions this afternoon, introducing the new labour mp for blackpool south after last week's by—election but also another surprise addition to the

opposition . opposition. >> can i also warmly welcome the new labour mp for dover to these benches ? mr speaker , if one week benches? mr speaker, if one week a tory mp who's also a doctor says the prime minister can't be trusted with the nhs and joins labour and the next week the tory mp for dover on the front line of the small boats crisis, says the prime minister cannot be trusted with our borders and joins labour. what is the point of this failed government? staggering on. >> what's what's the point of her going to labour? yeah that's right. so tory mp well former natalie elphicke defected to labour this afternoon hitting out at what she called rishi sunak tried sorry, tired and chaotic government. but is this really the victory that starmer is making out to be? steve baker wrote today i have been searching in vain for a

conservative mp who thinks themselves to the right of natalie elphicke. one just quipped i didn't realise there was any room to her right and up until a matter of hours ago she was no fan of starmer or his labour party, previously accusing them of not wanting to stop the small boats and siding with the criminal people smuggling gangs. with the criminal people smuggling gangs . and when her smuggling gangs. and when her husband charlie al fayed, the previous mp for dover, was jailed in 2021 for sexually assaulting two women, natalie leapt to his defence, claiming that he'd been punished for being attractive. i mean, it begs the question, doesn't it? why didn't starmer just copy his shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, when elphicke came running over to defect? >> mp for dover natalie elphicke , when rashford missed a penalty, her tweet was if we spent more time on football rather than trying to get free school meals for our kids, maybe it'd be better off. >> yeah. she sat next to starmer today. rachel reeves with natalie elphicke behind her. the woman she told to f off and she was cheering that she's just

joined the labour benches mad. i'm joined now by former conservative minister anne whittaker, and it is a catastrophic misstep for labour. do you think , it's absolutely do you think, it's absolutely ludicrous if you actually look at the expressions in that clip that you showed of rachel reeves and angela rayner , they don't and angela rayner, they don't exactly look ecstatic. they've got very, very fixed expressions and smiles and it is it is very surprising. but this is exactly what started to happen in 1997, when the tories were looking at a major defeat and probably being out of for office for, quite a few years, not just one parliament, and i can think of at least four conservative mps who defected, two to labour, two to the lib dems during that time, and of course, if you go back, even further, when labour was about to be out of for office a long time, you had people like reg prentice name probably forgotten crossing the floor. so it isn't unusual . and

floor. so it isn't unusual. and what this is saying is that natalie , elphicke and anybody natalie, elphicke and anybody else who does what she has done is simply recognising that the tories have no future and she's hedging her bets. >> yeah, but but she's leaving anyway. this is the thing. so she's not going to stand for labour at the next general election in that seat. so why didn't she just suck it up for a few months? unless, of course, she's going to shamelessly go into the lords. >> i'm going to say there is an upper house, and, you know, of those four mps that i mentioned who defected when tony blair was about to get his massive majority, you know, at least three of them. the fourth didn't, but three of them ended up in the upper house. and, you know, so it could well be about that. >> i just find it absolutely astonishing. i mean, the labour party aren't happy with that. she's been tweeting some unbelievable stuff about labour, literally until like a few days ago where, you know, saying that they haven't got a plan, that this is awful. she is to the right of the conservative party

as well. can you do you honestly is the only thing that you can think this is about, about her potentially getting in the house of lords, the kind of jobs for the girls situation? >> i can't say that because i don't know, i don't know what the discussions have been. what i do know is that she is not naturally , you know, a person of naturally, you know, a person of the left , she wouldn't be the left, she wouldn't be attracted to a party. other the conservatives. i'm not really certain what it is about. i mean , yes, i get that the conservatives have failed and they haven't , you know, they haven't, you know, delivered on the boats, etc, but nor is starmer going to do that. so what exactly has she gone across ? what i don't know. across? what i don't know. >> well, we're going to just hear from her quickly. anne wright she's she's she's defending a decision i believe here. so let's, let's let's hear here. so let's, let's let's hear her out . her out. >> in 2019, the conservatives stood on a manifesto that was very much centre ground. but under rishi sunak they've abandoned the centre ground and broken many election promises. meanwhile, under keir starmer, labour have changed and i think

that change is going to bring a much better future for our country. and that's why i'm so keen to join the labour party and play my part in bringing that important future forward . that important future forward. >> absolute load of rubbish, ann. >> well, i mean, it's just unbelievable stuff. >> i mean, yes, the conservative party were on the centre ground but she's always been right. so no. what's all that about? she's always been well on the right of centre as far as i recall at any rate. so i don't get that. and as for saying that keir starmer , as for saying that keir starmer, you know labour has changed under keir starmer. i mean this is a man who shouted the merits of jeremy corbyn. what is she doing? >> yeah. she's the only labour member of the erg now as well, which is quite funny actually that that european research group, they're staunchly pro—brexit. all of that stuff, yeah. completely is there a whiff of the green party about this and that? you know, the greens were so desperate to get council seats that they accepted a complete lunatics and fruitcakes in. i'm not calling natalie elphicke a lunatic and a

fruitcake, but what i am saying is the labour party are just welcoming anyone in now. they probably let you in. what do you think they should let farage in? that would be the final one, wouldn't it? >> well, i don't think you'll find either of us applying. >> no, but this is. they take anyone, wouldn't they? i mean, this is this is bizarre. >> i mean, there is that, you know , that anything that know, that anything that embarrasses the tories is a good thing for labour. so, you know, from that point of view, yes, but it is an extraordinary defection. i mean, it really is . defection. i mean, it really is. i mean, you know, she she has just been so consistently to the right of the tory party. i just can't understand this. no it really does not seem to make any sense. >> and can i also just say as well, absolute complete and utter disrespect. so whatever has gone on behind the scenes, i mean, robert jenrick were going to be hearing from him a bit later on. former immigration minister incredibly peed off with rishi sunak and the direction of travel in the tory party. he's now putting himself forward, trying to put a conservative message out there. he's going to do that at 10 pm.

you know, he's not defecting to labour and to just do it at prime minister's questions time. it does raise serious questions about the moral fibre of this woman. >> yes, but it also raises questions about the moral fibre of the conservative party. they've done nothing except get rid of their since 2019, get rid of their leaders, criticise their leaders, threaten their leaders, you know, always going to write letters, etc. this is actually the modern conservative party and this is almost now normal behaviour. >> well it's completely farcical isn't it. and i wonder with laboun isn't it. and i wonder with labour, you know, if they're trying to say that by welcoming natalie elphicke in their a broad church, i mean she's, she's not a church. she's, she's a hindu temple by comparison to whatever the, whatever the labour party broad church is. they're really this is curtains for starmer winning back the left though isn't it. i mean how could you know owen jones. he left. he's not coming back now natalie elphicke is there. is he i >> -- >> well i think probably an awful lot of people in the labour party tonight and in the labour party tonight and in the labour parliamentary party are choking on this and don't like

it, but on the other hand, you know, it's one in the eye for the conservatives. that's what, that's what the, the thinking is. >> yeah. absolutely bonkers. and thank you very much, ann widdecombe there coming up. robert jenrick is about to take it to woke whitehall over mass immigration. >> really important because winning this argument enables us to take the actions that's actually necessary to cut migration . migration. >> i've got some astonishing data for you that just blows the lid, blows the lid off anyone? i tell you what, tune in at ten and then show it to any of your mates who still think that mass immigration is a good thing. but he's also pretty scathing about natalie al fayed. yeah. oh, i'll play natalie al fayed. yeah. oh, i'll play that clip shortly. but next, the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine is being withdrawn worldwide after they admitted in court that it can cause rare side effects. they say it's for commercial reasons, but will we be hearing more from tv doctors like this ? like this? >> the data shows that there's

no causal link, no evidence at all that these blood clots are related to the vaccination . related to the vaccination. >> don't let them forget that because they had a massive impact at the time of the pandemic. our full report

it's patrick christys tonight. on gb news. coming up, ex—minister robert jenrick tells me why the mass migration is making us all poorer. but before that , it was making us all poorer. but before that, it was once heralded by bons that, it was once heralded by boris johnson as a triumph of british science and has been credited with saving more than 6 million lives. but now the oxford astrazeneca covid vaccine is being withdrawn worldwide after the pharmaceutical giant claimed the jab had been superseded by alternatives, and therefore wasn't commercially viable. the decision comes just months after the company admitted that the vaccine can cause a rare and dangerous side effect, which causes blood clots and low blood count, and

astrazeneca is currently being sued by more than 50 alleged victims and grieving relatives in a high court case. but itv's doctor hilary jones, he lectured the nation day in day out with misinformation like this. >> all the clinical trials, the european medicines agency , our european medicines agency, our own mhra, the who. 17 million people who've been vaccinated in europe and the in the uk. all the data shows that there's no causal link, no evidence at all that these blood clots are related to the vaccination. >> wonder how many jabs oh at yes. and who could forget this morning's doctor, sara kayat ? morning's doctor, sara kayat? >> well, what's really excellent is and it's a statistic that i think should be shouted from the rooftops. is that after 12 days from the first vaccination of the astrazeneca vaccine, you are 100% effective against hospitalisation and death . hospitalisation and death. >> that wasn't the dodgiest thing about that clip, was it? i'm joined now by the emeritus professor of bacteriology at

aberdeen university is professor hugh pennington, professor hugh, thank you very, very much. do you think that people who were absolutely shouting from the rooftops about the completely unimpeded benefits of this covid vaccine should hang their heads in shame now ? in shame now? >> well, i don't think they ever they ever said that it was, you know , absolutely 100% safe or know, absolutely 100% safe or absolutely 100% protective, because we've known from the start that getting immunity against coronaviruses as a family and covid is a member of that family is tricky. family and covid is a member of that family is tricky . and, you that family is tricky. and, you know, the immunity is not 100% after you've had an infection, which is usually the best way of getting yourself immunity. and it's not 100% after having any of the vaccines, any of the vaccines , they're all much of vaccines, they're all much of a muchness. the ones we've used in the uk. and also, no medical product is without some degree of risk. i think the problem

here with the astrazeneca one is that there was a very rare complication , which which could complication, which which could cause very serious brain damage , cause very serious brain damage, for example, we weren't allowed to. sorry to interrupt , to. sorry to interrupt, professor hugh. sorry to interrupt, professor hugh, but that's the vital bit . we weren't that's the vital bit. we weren't really allowed to talk about that, were we? if you did talk about it, you were demonised. you wouldn't get a place on national television. really? you weren't. you know, you ran all sorts of risks, really, for even posing a question like you said there, you know, any, any vaccine comes with risks and side effects. trying to talk about the risk or the side effects of the covid vaccine was like a prison sentence. >> well, we know that the public has has a rather sceptical view about , things said about about, things said about products like vaccines and not not everybody. and most people actually accept them. they think it's a good thing, but there's a substantial minority who get very worried. some of them rightly so , and some conspiracy rightly so, and some conspiracy theorists. all that kind of

thing. and so those people who are talking about vaccines and talking about them with knowledge have to be very careful how they pick their words so that they don't scare people off who need the vaccine. because let's face it , the vast because let's face it, the vast majority of people who've had this vaccine have had a degree of protection. well, everybody's had the vaccine , had a degree of had the vaccine, had a degree of protection, and it stops . protection, and it stops. basically, it's 70% protection against being sent to hospital. and it's 90% protection against being killed by the virus. that's the astrazeneca vaccine. so it's worth having particularly if you're in a risk group. and let's face it, a good portion of the population is a risk group. anybody over 60, for example, and the older you are, the more likely you are to have a fatal infection . and that's a fatal infection. and that's why they focus the vaccine on these elderly to somewhat to someone like me though, okay. >> or loads of people who were right in the middle of this pandemic where there was fear everywhere. i mean, i can

remember one day i was on a different radio station and i was talking about all of a sudden on the front page, there's the nepalese variant that turned out not to exist. so we had a load of that stuff doing the rounds. and you also had these, you know, a conveyor belt of tv doctors coming and going, come on, get the jab, get the jab, go and get the jab. get the jab, go and get the jab. get the jab. it's absolutely safe. everything's absolutely safe. people have had to go to court now. people have lost their lives and people will not be able. no amount of money is going to bring someone back from the dead, is it? and i don't think that was made clear enough at the time that, albeit incredibly rare, incredibly rare, but it was still a thing. and they're only finally admitting it at the same time as they've decided to pull it worldwide . worldwide. >> well, the vaccine, the astrazeneca vaccine has been very successful and it saved many , many multiple, times of many, many multiple, times of a number of lives. then those who've suffered any complications from it, and, you know, the balance is, is an

enormous balance in favour of the vaccine. but as i said, what has to be very careful when it's talking about side effects, even if they're very, very rare because then they get magnified as a reason for not having the vaccine. and there are some people who don't like having vaccines they don't have, like having injections, for example, and of course, paul, having injections, for example, and of course, paul , the what and of course, paul, the what what what the, the astrazeneca , what what the, the astrazeneca, you have to compare it with other vaccines which don't have this particular complication. they leave you with a sore arm, perhaps they work in a different way. they're made in a different way. they're made in a different way , and they're also part of a way, and they're also part of a scientific triumph that we had vaccines coming along very early , far earlier than we would have expected under under the sort of traditional way that we make vaccines. and that's because there was a lot of science going on behind the scenes. all right. and the oxford people had ten years of experience of making this kind of vaccine all right, professor, thank you very much, sir, professor hugh pennington there. the mea culpas are coming

in thick and fast. by the way, you've already had susanna reid saying, oh, i think we did actually harm the kids a little bit with, various things they would like. anyway right. okay, so we've got a right of reply here from astrazeneca , from the here from astrazeneca, from the body of evidence in clinical trials and real world data, the astrazeneca oxford vaccine has continuously been shown to have an acceptable safety profile, and regulators around the world consistently state that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks of extremely rare potential side effects. right. coming up for me, immigration minister robert jenrick, he lets rip on the tory turned labour mp natalie elphicke, an idiotic decision . decision. >> she's joined a party which stands for everything that she despises, and he sounds the alarm on just how much damage the migrant crisis by the way, legal migration is doing to the british worker. >> okay, it's patrick christys tonight. i'll see you in a sec. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

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that sunshine than today. and the sunshine should spread up and further north into northwestern areas of scotland, as that weather front pushes north. highs of 2223, possibly 24 degrees across central areas of england on thursday . again, of england on thursday. again, there's a risk of mist and fog to start the day on friday. the sunshine could be a bit hazy first thing, but it should brighten up quite quickly through the day and i think most areas will see a day of long lived sunny spells. and once again, it's going to be feeling fairly warm. long live sunshine to come on saturday. a risk of showers on sunday, but temperatures are climbing towards 25 or 26 degrees. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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unalloyed good for the economy. and in the report, we've set out that that really isn't the case. >> the last myth about mass immigration gets busted and an idiotic decision. >> she's joined a party which stands everything that she despises . despises. >> everyone's laughing at laboun >> everyone's laughing at labour. plus i'm a witch . labour. plus i'm a witch. eurovision is weirder than ever, and. >> and what is the title of the first volume of cs. lewis's chronicles of narnia to be published chronologically? it follows the magician's nephew , follows the magician's nephew, c.j. lewis, the lion, the witch and the wardrobe, monty panesar, his political career ends before it started. >> i've got tomorrow's newspapers tonight , and on my newspapers tonight, and on my panel it is the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood. we've got gb news, star nana akua and ex—labour minister bill rammell. oh, yes, and look what happens next here. watch very closely. watch very closely. well i'll reveal all in

a matter of seconds. get ready. britain, here we go. show this to the mass migration fanatics. next . fanatics. next. >> good evening from the newsroom. 10:00. and a reminder of the top stories tonight. labour's candidate for dover has given his response to conservative mp natalie elphicke defecting to his party. today, former soldier mike tapp reassured voters she won't be replacing him and that he looks forward to natalie's support at the next general election. well, the next general election. well, the dover mp announced her decision just two minutes before prime minister's questions this afternoon, saying that rishi sunaks government is chaotic and claimed that labour has changed. speaking shortly after defecting, miss elphicke said a labour government promises a brighter future. >> in 2019, the conservatives

stood on a manifesto that was very much centre ground. but under rishi sunak they've abandoned the centre ground and broken many election promises. meanwhile, under keir starmer, labour have changed and i think that change is going to bring a much better future for our country. and that's why i'm so keen to join the labour party and play my part in bringing that important future forward . that important future forward. >> in other news, today, banking group tsb says it will close 36 branches and cut 250 jobs across the business as more customers are opting for online banking. most of the lost positions will be in the bank's fraud department, central operations and in high street branches. it comes as about 96% of transactions now take place outside of a branch , while outside of a branch, while in—store transactions have fallen by 43% over the past four years. a father whose teenage daughter took her own life after watching harmful content on social media, says that a draft plan to protect children online doesn't go far enough. the media

regulator ofcom says platforms must take action to stop their algorithms recommending harmful content to children or face significant fines. but ian russell, part of bereaved families for online safety, says he wants to see safety codes strengthened to make sure that the world's biggest online platforms can better protect children online. officials have said there is no sign of malicious cyber activity in the problems that cause long queues at uk airports overnight. the technical issue meant that border force e—gates weren't working at several sites, including heathrow, gatwick, manchester and in edinburgh. minister for legal migration tom pursglove excuse me has been discussing the technical issue in the house of commons and apologised for the disruption . apologised for the disruption. and finally, just some breaking news that we're hearing coming to us out of south yorkshire tonight, where two people have now been arrested. hundreds also evacuated from around 130 properties after a bomb squad

was dispatched to the village in barnsley. shocked villagers in grimsthorpe have reported seeing an explosive truck and a bomb disposal robot in the area. it's understood the focus of police operations is a disused church and adjoining house in the area. after a number of suspicious items were found , detectives on items were found, detectives on the scene suggesting residents could remain evacuated for another 48 hours. roads also closed within a 60 metre cordon and they're asking members of the public to avoid the area for at least the next 72 hours. that's the latest from the newsroom for now. another update at 11:00. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by going to gb news. com slash alerts. >> one by one, the myths about mass legal immigration are being shattered. it turns out large scale migration has not delivered significant growth in gdp per capita and has increased

the strain on our capital stock . the strain on our capital stock. from roads and gp surgeries to housing. net migration accounts for around 89% of the 1.34 million increase in england's housing deficit in the last ten years. migrants from the middle east, north africa and turkey aged 25 to 64 are almost twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone born in the uk. this is according to a new report from the centre for policy studies, a signatory of this report is former immigration minister robert jenrick , who joined me earlier jenrick, who joined me earlier in the studio by former immigration minister robert jenrick. robert, thank you very much for joining jenrick. robert, thank you very much forjoining us today. has much for joining us today. has the myth that mass immigration is good for our economy now been shattered? >> well, i hope so and that's what we set out to do in the report that we published today, the arguments around the social and cultural impact of mass migration are well rehearsed, as is the democratic one, that we have all been voting for 30 years, for governments promising

to control and reduce migration. that only went on to do the opposite . but the last myth to opposite. but the last myth to be debunked was that mass migration was an unalloyed good for the economy . and in the for the economy. and in the report, we've set out that that in 25 years of mass migration would have left the uk an even ncher would have left the uk an even richer country. and that is not what's happened. in fact , it's what's happened. in fact, it's had a lot of damaging consequences on productivity , consequences on productivity, which has flatlined in recent years on wages which have been undercut by foreign labour on the housing market, where the sheer numbers of people coming in have made it much more difficult for people to get on the housing ladder or to rent in big cities like london. and this is really important, because winning this argument enables us to take the actions that's actually necessary to cut migration and get back to the kind of historic norms that we want to see. >> so are you now trying to make the case that mass immigration

of this scale makes us all poorer? >> absolutely. the sheer numbers of people coming in have placed massive pressure on public services like housing, access to gp's and doctors that that costs money to the exchequer and also the types of people that have been coming in have often been invariably been low wage, low skilled individuals who do not make a net contribution to the taxpayers here in the uk. >> okay, now you have published a 30 point plan. we won't go into all of them for obvious reasons. one of these points, i believe, is to split the home office into two. could you explain that for us? >> yeah. so i think the time has come to break up the home office this is an organisation which isn't working. you can see that day in, day out with stories of failures and incompetence. and i think part of that is the structure and the culture of the home office. so what i'm proposing is that we break it into that we have a department that handles national security

and policing, and then we create and policing, and then we create an entirely new department for border security and immigration control. and there we try to create and instil a new culture which is not focused on mopping up the consequences, but is about tackling the root cause of illegal migration and where we are really focused on having the most robust and fair immigration system in the world. >> can you just emphasise to me then what the culture is like now? i mean, you've just been inside the home office, so, so what's wrong with the culture at the moment? >> well, i'd say there are two issues. one is that it's far too focused on the consequence cases, the symptoms of the problem, rather than on tackling them and fixing the problem in them and fixing the problem in the first place. and resources are mismatched. too much money is going on hotels for illegal migrants, too little on stopping the boats in the first place and tackling the issue upstream. and then secondly, the system is far

too focused on managing issues like how we support migrant boats, rather than on getting in and having a really robust culture at the moment you think, well, i think we all want to see a compassionate and fair system, but we also want to see one that is robust and ultimately puts border security up front. i also just think that this is one of the most important issues for the most important issues for the public. you know, the public routinely say this is the number 1 or 2 issue facing the country right now, and therefore it is right now, and therefore it is right that it has its own government department. but with a minister in cabinet directly accountable for what's going on. >> okay, a couple of other points. i believe that you want to put across in this report are reducing the numbers of people coming in on health and social care visas and some student visas as well. the argument against that would be, well, who is going to look after us if we're all in care homes and our universities are going to fold? >> well, look, there's trade

offs in whatever you do, but if you want to reduce the number of people coming here, then you've got to tackle some of the big drivers of immigration that we've seen in recent years. one of those is students. and what we're proposing is simply to go back to the position , as it was back to the position, as it was 2 or 3 years ago when students came here, and if they wanted to stay on post study , they had to stay on post study, they had to get a graduate level job, which means a job which is paying the right kind of salary. in the last couple of years, what we've seen is a massive proliferation in students coming, paying £5,000 for a short course, often bringing their partner and dependents with them. and that really just being a back door to immigration and life in the uk. some of those people go on to be deliveroo drivers , you know, a deliveroo drivers, you know, a far cry from the kind of graduate level jobs that it was envisaged. >> it must have been saying all of this at the time when you were immigration minister, surely you must have been saying all of this at the time, and a lot of people think now the

social contract has been broken, it's always have left it too late. and rishi sunak is not the man for the job anymore. so what was the response when you were saying this stuff? well it wasn't good enough. >> i mean, that's one of the reasons why ultimately i resigned from cabinet because i wasn't able to persuade the prime minister and the government to go as far as i wanted to, to reduce the numbers. we did manage to secure a significant package at the end of last year, which will reduce numbers by about 300,000 a year. but to me, that was a beginning. it wasn't an end point. what i hope we can do now with this set of very comprehensive recommendations is persuade the government to take action. this could be done immediately. the package that we've we've set out here could be done before the general election. right >> in part two of that interview, i have a very important update for you on something that i know that a lot of our viewers and listeners really care about, which is this desire to try to get governments going forward, to publish the data and the details on the amount of people with pending visa restrictions and asylum

applications who have committed crime in britain. so yeah, big update coming your way. i'm just going to reintroduce my panel for you now. director of popular conservatives mark littlewood , conservatives mark littlewood, gb news presenter nana akua and former labour minister bill rammell bill so at the expense of our housing, vast swathes of our culture, our nhs waiting lists and our school places amongst other things , we have amongst other things, we have thrown the doors open to this country and we have got precious little per capita to show for it. >> it's had a huge impact and i mean robert jenrick has been part of the government for the last 14 years. it's completely lost control of the immigration system, net migration at 745,000 is far too high and is unsustainable. and that needs to be tackled. but some of jenrick's proposals, i mean, he's going to take on the universities where, you know, it's one of our biggest global export success stories, worth about £12 billion a year to the uk economy. if you look at the polling evidence, people don't see international students as migrants because they know they put into the country. and 97% of

them go back once they complete their visas. even more shocking is what he's saying about the social care sector. a limit of 30,000 visas when last year there were 150,000 in the social care sector to propose cutting those numbers by 4/5 without any credible plan about how you're going to replace that workforce . going to replace that workforce. you know, our care homes couldn't function without migrants . it's irresponsible and migrants. it's irresponsible and reckless, and frankly, it's not serious politics. it's a pitch to the tory party members for the leadership election that's going to take place after the election. >> okay. now, mark, some people might look at that and go, well, you know, that is the economic argument for mass migration at this level . just shattered this level. just shattered we're, you know, one of the one of, i would argue, maybe the trade off for record levels of net migration is that, well, it makes us all richer. and now this report is saying, well it doesn't. yeah >> i mean, i actually think what robert jenrick said is, is

rather mild mannered. i mean, he's just said in your interview with him, patrick, that mass migration is not an unalloyed benefit . migration can be benefit. migration can be beneficial. we're not going to decide that the population of the uk today is the absolute optimal amount for evermore growing populations can generate economic growth. it depends on quantum and type. and i'm rather with bill 700,000 people a year is difficult for any infrastructure to soak up just at that rapid pace. but it also depends on the type of people that are coming in. you could imagine if we got it to, i don't know, 100,000 a year. let's say there'd be a big difference whether these people were high earners , highly productive net earners, highly productive net contributors to the economy , or contributors to the economy, or whether they were all people who weren't really part of the labour force and claiming welfare. and this is the statistic, patrick, that i've used on your program before. it is an oversimplification , but on is an oversimplification, but on average, if you spread the entire cost of government between all of the people in this country, it's £14,000 per

person, per year. obviously young people and old people cost a bit more people in their 30s and 40s a bit less, but on average that's the cost of government in this country. so if you are contributing less than 14 grand a year in tax or 28 grand if you're with your spouse, or 56 grand if you're with your spouse and two kids, you are a net drain on the pubuc you are a net drain on the public purse. those are the bafic public purse. those are the basic raw facts of it . basic raw facts of it. >> and nana, i wonder if this goes down as one of the biggest betrayals in british history. it was post—brexit. you know, people had voted to take back control of their borders and we decided to throw those borders open to a lot of people from a lot of places like this the middle east, north africa and turkey, aged between 25 and 64. and it turns out they're almost twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone born in the uk, significantly less economically active as people from america, from france and from spain. >> and ironically , we've sort of >> and ironically, we've sort of exchanged eu migrants for

migrants from all across the world, which should have been a good thing in a sense that everybody has an equal footing to get into this country. but unfortunately, even the migration, the legal stuff that we had control of, we just were drunk on this low skilled, cheap laboun drunk on this low skilled, cheap labour, which is what was what people everything he described about what's happening now is what was happening within the eu and we were part of the eu. so we're literally i mean, what you said bill about, oh, you know, we need all these workers and so on. again, it's like this drunk on. again, it's like this drunk on cheap labour instead of investing more within our own country and paying for the people within this country. so yeah, i think it's a massive betrayal of the british public because they had control of the borders and everything, and they did not use that. and actually ,. did not use that. and actually,. i'm glad that robert jenrick is talking now. but he is part of that party that allowed this to happen and there is no getting around it. they allowed this to happen and it is a betrayal.

>> and there's a massive irony here. when we were within the european union, whatever you said about the east european migrants who were the predominant component of people coming to this country, they were damned hard working and they put into the economy the people who've replaced them after brexit, as the tories have let the number numbers rip . let the number numbers rip. >> no, no, absolutely no. absolutely. and when people were voting to take back control, i'm not i'm absolutely not going to speak for everybody here at all. i will speak for myself though. yes, i did want to see the overall number of migration come down. never in a million years did i think that the kind of people that we would be throwing our borders open to. if you look at this now, canada, singapore and australia, migrants from there apparently pay between 4 and 9 times as much in income tax as migrants from somalia or pakistan. right? so never in a million years, i don't think, did anyone who went and crossed that box to vote leave right on that box to vote leave right on that day think, well, what we're going to do is we're going to throw the borders over to somalia and pakistan. >> yeah. i mean, it's an intriguing point here. i mean, i

think that obviously the whole slogan of the brexit campaign was take back control. theoretically, you could be in favour of taking back control, even if you wanted a very liberal immigration policy. the point was that the uk government didn't control immigration policy, but the conservatives have not put in place a coherent immigration policy. i'll be fascinated here from bill, what the labour party sort of plans would be. why would things be different , not just managerially different, not just managerially but in policy terms. but i don't think that most people who voted for brexit and many people who voted for remain assumed that the consequence would be these sort of net numbers. well, what you've got to do is invest in our workforce, you've got to properly train and educate people. >> you've got to pay decent wages so that british workers will take some of these jobs that are currently being done by, well, we've got a lot of idle people out of the workforce just we're going to have to put a pin in it, but we will be returning very, very quickly because, yes, i'll be bringing you all of tomorrow's front pages. >> but part two of this sit down interview with robert jenrick. now in it, he updates gb news viewers and listeners on our

mission to find out which country's asylum seeker criminals are arriving from and how many of them there are, and they're strong words for a new labour mp, natalie elphicke . labour mp, natalie elphicke. >> an idiotic decision. she's joined a party which stands everything that she despises . everything that she despises. >> jenrick unleashed .

next. welcome back. it's time now for part two of my interview with former immigration minister robert jenrick. look, i wanted to give you all an update on where he was up to with getting the law changed so that governments have to publish data on how many migrants have committed crimes in britain , and committed crimes in britain, and also get his reaction to that shock defection of natalie elphicke to the labour party. you sat on this sofa. we were talking about migrant asylum seekers , people with pending seekers, people with pending visa applications and the crime stats and how difficult it was to get a hold of that. as you know, we've been trying to do our best here @gbnews to get some of that information and it's not forthcoming. i believe that you were looking to get a change in the law. i know our viewers and listeners will be keen to know where you're up to with that. >> well, gb news have been fantastic at supporting our campaign. it's judgement day coming up next week because the amendment that i have put to the criminal justice bill will come before the house of commons, and ihope before the house of commons, and i hope that the government will see, sense and will support that amendment . and that would mean amendment. and that would mean that they are then obligated in

law to publish on an annual bafis law to publish on an annual basis those stats and we can then all see what the impact of migration is on crime and sentencing in this country. migration is on crime and sentencing in this country . and sentencing in this country. and that's just one way in which we can have a more rational and transparent debate about the true consequences of migration. >> so that's one to watch for next week, then, isn't it? i've got to ask you, natalie elphicke. that was a bit of a shock to a lot of people. i also think quite a shock to a lot of people in the labour party as well, that the mp for dover and deal has decided to switch to laboun deal has decided to switch to labour, despite saying she will also stand down at the next election. anyway, i believe that does make her the first labour member of the erg. what do you make of natalie elphick's shock switch to the labour party? >> i think it's an idiotic decision. she's joined a party which stands everything that she despises . i which stands everything that she despises. i can't tell you which stands everything that she despises . i can't tell you the despises. i can't tell you the number of times i have had conversations with her, and she has attacked the labour party

for their open doors approach. the fact that keir starmer has stood for free movement has campaigned in the past to prevent foreign national offenders being sent back to their home countries. it's a betrayal, frankly, of the people that she represents in dover and deal that she represents in dover and deal, who are on the front line of our immigration crisis, is it not? >> however, all of that may well be true, right? but is it also not quite embarrassing for rishi sunak because he's confronted with this at pmqs and you've got natalie elphicke switching now on, she says, because of broken promises on borders and broken promises on borders and broken promises on borders and broken promises on immigration. so whilst you might have gone about things differently, i suppose there is a point of agreement between you and her there. i mean, is it not embarrassing for the prime minister adds to this way that we need a general election now? >> well, natalie's joined a party that will do precisely the opposite of what she's campaigned on throughout her time in parliament. what i want the prime minister to do is something very different, which is to strengthen our borders, not open them up. as keir starmer would do. i want to ensure that the rwanda policy

actually works . and as you know, actually works. and as you know, i feel that we've opted for a weak version of that. but today i'm giving the prime minister a set of recommendations which would enable him to begin to restore trust in our legal migration system . that template migration system. that template is there for him. i hope that he will use the precious time that we've got now in office before the general election, and that will help to persuade some of those people who, for example, are voting reform or who are unsure whether to support us, that the party really cares about this central issue. >> okay, so next week it's going to be a big week. i believe we get some net migration figures out as well next week. i think, but also there on that robert jenrick amendment to the law to try and make sure that we can find out how many asylum seekers, etc. have committed crimes and what kind of crimes they are. i think that's important to answer the discussion, isn't it? and but nana, we'll start with you. i'm going to start with natalie elphicke, because, i mean, he called it an idiotic decision. he said that she's joined a party that will do the exact opposite of everything she

stands for, and i think that's right, isn't it? >> well, it is, i mean, she's like, a member of the erg. she's super right wing. in fact, there was that joke, that tweet that went out from steve baker, that you'd be hard pushed to even find somebody who's more right wing than her in the tory party. so, and why would you want her anyway? she defended her ex—husband, who , was, you know, ex—husband, who, was, you know, done for being a sexual predator . i mean, it's just a bit. why would that be? and then even when she's joined the party and crossed the floor, she's not going to stand. she says, i mean, this is all about attention grabbing. she wants to maybe she needs to be relevant. i think she's worried about losing her job, obviously, because the labour party are likely to be inaya likely to be the next leaders of this country. and i think she's also trying to get a peerage or something being pushed up to the house of lords. this is all about her. this is nothing to do with anything else, bill. >> i mean, at this point, would keir starmer take nigel farage do you think she's taking anyone? isn't he? >> no, i don't think so. but let

me just say i was surprised by this, you know, in the run up to 97, several tory mps defected to the labour party, all on the left of the tory party. it's been similar this time. she's an outlier in that respect. but i guess you don't look a gift horse in the mouth and actually give her her due. it may be she's been on a journey because i completely disagreed with robert jenrick when he said why should join labour? they're in favour of open borders. no, we're not in favour of open borders. and when we were in government, net immigration was the third of what it is today. we didn't spout off about about it. we actually got the job done and that's what's been lacking. >> all right. go on. >> all right. go on. >> i mean look everybody's been speculating for the last week or two after dan poulter , the two after dan poulter, the little known dan poulter defected to labour, who was going to be next? oh, to have been a fly on the wall in the conservative whips office. i bet they've got a list of 1012 tory mps who are a bit wobbly. they've got a list of 1012 tory mps who are a bit wobbly . might mps who are a bit wobbly. might defect to labour. she would have been nowhere near that list of the 350 tory mps. i reckon she

would have been behind rishi sunak as likely to defect to the labour party . absolutely labour party. absolutely extraordinary. the conservatives would not have seen this coming . would not have seen this coming. i don't think labour saw it coming either and i understand what bill's saying. you know, his party is on the up well aheadin his party is on the up well ahead in the opinion polls don't look a gift horse in the mouth, but i would say the labour party didn't quite get their pr right. the stunt that pmqs. well, that's fair banter. that's what politics is about. but there have been a good number of moderate voices in the labour party who were questioning this neil kinnock. right. not obviously associated with the hard left of the labour party, sort of saying what the hell's going on here? and i don't really think that the labour party machine got its pr quite right on this one. what really is her reason for defecting? it's weird. nobody has explained it , but that it's weird. nobody has explained it, but that pr that may be true, but it's indicative of, again, of the way the tory party is just crumbling before our eyes. >> and you know, you we're going to stagger on through another six months of this. well it's crazy. >> well, this is rats leaving a

sinking ship. sorry. excuse me, i don't worry. sadly there's two words that are interchangeable at this point. >> i think . yes. all right. >> i think. yes. all right. first watershed, no, but yeah , first watershed, no, but yeah, it is. it is bizarre. i mean, it is completely bizarre. you said she's gone on a journey. i mean, that's a bloody journey. that bill on a journey very quickly as well. >> the last few hours you've done. yeah. >> very quick journey. >> very quick journey. >> yeah. i'm not sure. i'm not sure i'm buying that anyway. right, guys. all right. lovely stuff. now, coming up, coming up. reports that illegal migrants are fleeing the uk to ireland over fears they will be deported. is rwanda plan working already? yes. okay. we're also going to be discussing the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. all right. and my panel are not going anywhere. stick around for expert analysis, fiery debate and a few laughs

welcome back. it's time to bring you tomorrow's news tonight. now, with the very first of the front pages. and we start with the metro. here's to europol

baby born deaf, cured in a uk world first. so a girl born completely deaf can now hear after having world leading gene therapy in a trial in an nhs hospital. oh, this is fantastic. she's only 18 months old, bless her. diagnosed with a very rare condition. it's caused by the disruption of the nerves. anyway, so now. now she can hear again. good. wow. modern science . right. let's go to the guardian . scientist despair amid guardian. scientist despair amid forecast of at least two and a half, degrees temperature rise. they're despairing. these scientists, they're absolutely despairing , scientists, they're absolutely despairing, it's a poll that shows that climate experts expect catastrophic heating. we've heard that before, haven't we? hundreds of the world's leading climate scientists expect that global temperatures will rise by at least two and a half degrees above the pre—industrial levels. this century. right, so let's go to the i in interest rates cuts can't save sunak amid defection row. so the bank of england is expected to hold the interest

rate at 5.25% today. this obviously is the headline for tomorrow with cuts unlikely until autumn, as a pollster warns that any drop is now too late to actually have any kind of meaningful impact. let's go to the independent. another tory mp defects sunak is ambushed at pmqs this now iconic and also, let's be honest, very weird shot of natalie . elphicke sat on the of natalie. elphicke sat on the labour benches next to a load of people who obviously hate her wishes. rishi. and they do. you just see in the picture . rishi just see in the picture. rishi sunak was rocked. yeah, look, we've done the story. let's go to the national. why not a, labour? okay, tories, the tories word there is crossed out with labour above it and values . labour above it and values. they've gone off on the old natalie elphicke story and they're saying being suspended from the commons for trying to influence a judge in her ex—husband's sexual assault trial, backing boris johnson and truss , supporting israel's truss, supporting israel's bombardment of gaza, attacking trade unions , scaremongering trade unions, scaremongering about vulnerable asylum seekers and blaming marcus rashford , and blaming marcus rashford, missing a penalty on free school meals. i mean, it is actually

quite a comprehensive list of the reasons why she shouldn't really be in the labour party. but there you go. the daily mail. labour willing to pander to sectarianism after dozens of pro gaza candidates elected in the local elections, tory chairman accuses starmer of embracing a threat to democracy. and we're going to start with the mail mark, do you think that keir starmer, in trying to say that he wants to win back these people, some of these green party , nutters. yeah. said it party, nutters. yeah. said it that he's actually , you know, that he's actually, you know, really embracing, well, kind of extremism or sectarianism. >> well look, he mustn't i really hope he doesn't . i hold really hope he doesn't. i hold no torch for the labour party or for keir starmer. i think it's astonishing what's happened to the green party , which i hadn't the green party, which i hadn't associated with shrieks of allahuakbar and the rest of it. no, but the muslim vote has been a big part of the labour party coalition, and because of the concentration in votes, it makes a big difference in a good number of constituencies , i number of constituencies, i think wes streeting being one of them, perhaps, but i think keir starmer has got to adopt a very,

very careful line here. if he starts to get muslim extremists back into the labour party or even pandering to them in any way, we are all the way back to the ghastly anti—semitic problem we had under jeremy corbyn. so we had underjeremy corbyn. so i appreciate this is a party political attack by the chairman of my party, the conservative party we'll see what keir starmer does. he might take the view that he's far enough ahead in the opinion polls, that he doesn't need to do anything . and doesn't need to do anything. and ihope doesn't need to do anything. and i hope that he sticks to a moderate course of action. yeah. >> bill, as a former labour minister, i mean, firstly, it must be said that richard holden is quite lucky to still have a job actually , after the local job actually, after the local election results. not entirely his fault, but you know, we are where we are there, but i mean, he has got a point. i mean, as far as you're concerned, as a labour voter, i mean, these nutters are now they've left you good, right? why win them back? >> i don't get this story. and frankly, it smacks to me of typical daily mail nonsense. you know , we actually lost votes know, we actually lost votes last week because keir had taken the tough and right stance on

what's happening in gaza, support for the state of israel , support for the state of israel, horror at what happened last october, but calling for a ceasefire. and that wasn't good enough for some people . well, enough for some people. well, that's as maybe, as far as i'm concerned , keir took the right concerned, keir took the right stance, and i don't think there's any indication he's going to soften that stance. >> well, well, i mean, there is the indication really. i mean, rachel reeves has said that she wants to try to win some some people back and you win them back through the arguments . back through the arguments. >> you don't win them back by saying that we're going to embrace their argument. >> i mean, they've given a list of eight. they've kindly told you what they want, haven't they? and it's 18 demands that include things not going to get it. >> well, well, i mean, i would say it's not that long ago we had the farrago of the rochdale by—election. >> yeah. so whatever keir starmer says he's also got to make sure that there are proper vetting processes in place. right. so you don't want these people slipping through the net. i mean, i respect the labour party as a mainstream political party, even though i disagree with it. but it seems to me

there could be a danger that these people get selected for local council, even for parliament, unless labour party's hq's vetting process is absolutely watertight and it was found wanting at rochdale. and i don't know how the labour party nana listen, he's got so many people that he's trying to satisfy , which is why he's got satisfy, which is why he's got the nickname flip flop. >> i mean, first of all, he's got all the unions that he needs to satisfy. then of course, he's trying to satisfy the muslim vote. then of course, there was the whole thing with the anti—semitism within the labour party. so he's trying to satisfy them and then even the net zero lobby. so he's trying to get the green thing because that's why he wants to do net zero. look this this man literally just sits on the fence and the sort of tips to one side depending on which side he thinks he's going to, where the balance of power might be. >> do you know what, nana. that's really not fair. he's he's been he's been utterly ruthless since he's been leader of the labour party. he's been utterly ruthless about moving the labour party forward, rooting out anti—semitism , flip

rooting out anti—semitism, flip flop, expelling the former leader of the labour party who was supposedly friends. >> he was a friend of his. and then suddenly, oh, jeremy corbyn was a friend of his. i mean, there's even a quote where he says that him and jeremy corbyn, they're quite good friends. suddenly when he realised that jeremy corbyn wasn't that popular, he's like distanced himself. i don't know, he is. come on. i mean that is keir starmer. >> come on. you can lay exactly the same accusation at rishi sunak, who served alongside bons sunak, who served alongside boris johnson and clearly had no time. >> he's just a traitor. he just betrayed boris. that was a straightforward betrayal. this is somebody. what about the 28 billion for green energy flip flop? oh you can destabilise the tories. >> crashed the economy. no. >> crashed the economy. no. >> and talking about keir starmer, you don't listen. i don't change. i'm not getting the tories get away from the mess they've made. >> but i'm talking about keir starmer. he sits on the fence. he's trying to pander to every single sector. and i think this piece and you called the daily mail rubbish or whatever you called it, i think that's ridiculous because the daily mail have uncovered some incredible stories. >> the daily mail has been telling lies about the labour party for 100 years. >> no, they are 100 years. go

back to the. >> you just made that up. >> you just made that up. >> no, i haven't made the zinoviev letter in the 1920s that they manufactured and used against the labour party, the mail. but this is the truth. >> this is the truth. he's willing to pander to sukh. he's literally going for any whatever he says goes. he keeps changing. >> is he doing to pander to the extreme left? >> okay, let's go for let's go for his stance on on gaza. okay. so one minute he was all for israel and everything else. and then he started to soften. and now he's got people in his party going from one side to the other. >> he's already towards a ceasefire. >> the government has supported the americans have supported, because although we support the right of israel to exist , we right of israel to exist, we believe that the response in terms of the disproportionate impact on ordinary palestinians is not the right way. >> i think we're talking about keir starmer. i imagine if you ask most of the electorate about keir starmer, they would struggle to work out what he stands for. >> exactly. that is a bit of a problem for him. it does seem to me he's trying to kind of win the election by very cautiously carrying the lucky for us, at some point soon he will have to

be a manifesto and then we can then we we'll know what's in it, won't we? >> right now for something completely different. our brave. oh, i enjoyed that. i felt like taking the night off there for a second. anyway, our brave firefighters put their lives on the line day in, day out to keep us safe. and it was no different in the west midlands yesterday they meet four month old jeremy, who had his head stuck in the garden wall at home for around 30 minutes when his owner called west midlands fire service to help. firefighters were at the scene of the incident within four minutes and they were able to free jeremy in a matter of seconds. there he is after a check up at the vet, jeremy was given the all clear , i think. given the all clear, i think. a round of applause, a round of applause. there for those brave firefighters, can i just take a moment to appreciate that dog was a, i think, a beagle called jeremy beagle, a very good. oh, that's what it was, wasn't it? i think literally, that's what that's what it'll be. there you go anyway. right there. look at

his little face. right. coming up. coming up. we run through some of the highlights of monty panesar extremely short lived political career and next. eurovision is getting even weirder . i'm eurovision is getting even weirder. i'm aware that . it's weirder. i'm aware that. it's the queer entry. they're from ireland. meanwhile, this is patrick christys. tonight we're on

gb news. okay. welcome back. i've got a couple more front pages for you. now let's start with the daily mirror. no royal reunion. world's apart, they say, but just two miles separate. king charles and prince harry. let's go over to the telegraph. cameron eu must be tougher on russia. defence spending has to rise if the west wants to tackle putin and china. that's according to the former prime minister, now foreign secretary. interesting story at the bottom of the telegraph here as well.

cambridge fails to clear protests as sunak warns of anti—semitism. so the university of cambridge will not move . of cambridge will not move. pro—palestine protesters from a college lawn. rishi sunak is actually summoning vice chancellors, and we're going to be talking about that a little bit later on, but yeah, he's summoning vice chancellors, apparently to warn them over outright harassment . he says of outright harassment. he says of jewish students. let's, let's let's get on with the old prince harry stuff, though. nana. i'll start with you . you've got very start with you. you've got very strong views. you're a massive fan of prince harry butter. was was the king right to snub him, do you think? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, look, because what, he probably have some sort of recording material on him, or there's something that he's going to use for his documentary. i just think that we're kind of fed up with this. i'm fed up of prince harry and the whole meghan markle debacle. i'd like to see them all make up and be friends, but every time they've got something else to off, the family and the king simply cannot risk another episode, especially with his

health as well. i mean, you could imagine, i think a lot of the stress can bring on dis ease. so all of this stress that the royal family have been going through over the last few years of all of this, harry and meghan nonsense, i think has played into a lot of issues. >> the royals mark didn't even send apparently a represented to saint paul's cathedral. they could have sent andrew. >> well, that would have gone down a storm, wouldn't it? look this is irreparable, surely, isn't it? i'm not much of a royal watcher, but this is irreparable, and i think rightly so . if you're not going to see so. if you're not going to see your son when you're only two miles apart and he lives on the other side of the pond, you're not going to make any effort to see him. and i think harry deserves it. so the king has my full support here, and i don't think this relationship will ever be repaired, let alone the relationship between harry and his brother. >> i mean, bill, the other rumour was apparently that, you know, harry makes certain demands, apparently, like camilla can't be in the room. and apparently camilla likes to be in the room and that's a problem. so what do you make of this? the king and harry. i mean, the noise, all the noise

two days ago was that they were definitely meeting. and that's obviously not happened. >> so do you know what? i actually think it's quite sad. i mean, you know, harry is clearly aggrieved. the way he's conducted himself leaves somewhat to be desired. but this is a father and son. the father's got cancer . the mother father's got cancer. the mother died years ago. i think it's really tragic that they're just totally estranged. >> well, it's his own fault, though, isn't it? i mean , that, though, isn't it? i mean, that, you know, like when prince philip is dying, you then go on oprah and, you know, they must have known that prince philip really wasn't well. and then you spread a load of nonsense about racism. and then later on, two years or so, in a tom bradbury interview after the queen has passed away, our late queen, you then go, oh, racism, harry and meghan, who made that bed? >> let him lie in it. >> let him lie in it. >> all right, let them lie in it. >> well, that's that's part of that there. and talk about something much more important. it's it's eurovision, so let me present you with this year's eurovision song contest. so firstly, we had the uk's representative, didn't we? the union jack, disliking pro—palestine activist olly alexander. and now i present to you this year's representative

from ireland . from ireland. >> do you know what makes me special ? i'm a queer and i'm special? i'm a queer and i'm a which . which. >> right. >> right. >> yeah. so, mark, they've got your vote. >> oh, definitely. what'd you say? she's a queer. she looked like a reindeer. >> she said. >> she said. >> she said she's. what makes her special is that she's a queer and a witch. >> well, well, i definitely got my vote then. i mean, presumably a modicum of musical talent. or is that no longer required? she does opera. oh, a lot of musical talent nailed on. winner. nailed on winner, i mean, eurovision. >> look, i'm ridiculous. i'm not eurovision , yes. i mean, but eurovision, yes. i mean, but that's the point, isn't it? i mean, that stuff probably will do quite well at eurovision, but i know you're a massive eurovision fan . eurovision fan. >> no, i'm really, really not. but but my wife and my kids are. i'm going to be forced to watch it on saturday night. so awful, but we're not going to get any

votes because the rest of europe always votes against us. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, also, there's something about the politics. >> no it's not, no, it is, it's about the music. i mean, ukraine. no, no, no. >> nothing to do with their song, to do with the politics. but that was sympathy. yeah. we would have. >> that was sympathy last year for ukraine or the year before that. but then we've had scooch. do you remember them? they were awful. they were the ones who dressed as flight attendants. >> why don't we put up a proper band? >> nil point. >> nil point. >> we're brilliant at music. >> we're brilliant at music. >> not all that many proper bands. >> this latest guy, i mean, it's just awful. even though he's like the lead singer, you would have thought we could do better with our entry, wouldn't we? we've had likes of david barry, rolling stone, richard stuff, the good band in this country. instead we end up with scooch and this. >> it might be a nil point anyway, right now it was only a few days ago that from bermuda to london, how to make an emergency evacuation after a bomb scare. and today a cargo aircraft made an emergency landing at istanbul airport. so the landing gear failed on this fedex flight or. yeah i think you can pilot. you can almost

see the exact moment where that pilot clenches, can't you? good grief. yeah that must have thought that his days were over there. the boeing plane was on there. the boeing plane was on the last leg of its flight from paris to istanbul, when the pilots realised the front landing gear had failed. miraculously, no one was injured and the crew safely evacuated. although i imagine that a few parcels were smashed. so there we go. it's time to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass. today's greatest britain and union jackass . mark, your union jackass. mark, your greatest britain, please. >> honorary javier milei the president of argentina . the president of argentina. the shock therapy being applied to argentina looks like it's working inflation way down. but budgets balanced. interest rates cut three times in three weeks. keep your eye on this guy. he's not out of the woods yet, but wow, something really exciting is happening in argentina. i think we could learn from it a bit in the west. >> yeah, i mean, i, i absolutely love how completely , utterly love how completely, utterly bonkers he is. i mean, he's a, you know, kind of leather jacket, chainsaw wielding bloke

with a, you know, quite. >> it's working, patrick, but seems to be working. >> it seems to be working. yeah. lovely. right. nana >> you said it looks like it's working. >> he looks like les dawson, actually. >> yeah. true enough. >> yeah. true enough. >> yeah, well, look, my great britain is, deta hedman. she's a female british darts player. she forfeited her place. she refused to play against a trans player who was a trans woman who is a biological male. she's absolutely right. and if more women did that, then a category, there would be a separate category for trans women. and rather than putting them in the same category for women, can i just say i believe none of that. >> she's joining us on the show on friday. that's right. which is friday when you're nana is standing for in me and that's why you're nominated. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> on friday. so. good. good. well, you're already plugging away. good, go on bill press, sir geoff hurst, hero of 66 hat trick. >> scorer. despite the russian linesman fronting a campaign to make the elderly more comfortable with technology , he comfortable with technology, he speaks really movingly about being old and the way that

technology vie, can ease your life. and, you know, this is someone who, at a very early age, got fame and relative fortune, and he's still a good, decent bloke doing decent things. today's greatest person is sir geoff hurst. >> now we're bang up against it. so just names and quick please. >> monty panesar shortest political career ever thought nato was something to do with immigration. didn't know the minimum wage. >> what is this quiz by the way. >> what is this quiz by the way. >> stomp the panesar stamp the panesar okay do you know the cost of a prescription in england i think it's about £15. >> no £9.90. oh okay. >> no £9.90. oh okay. >> what's the population of eaung >> what's the population of ealing . ealing. >> 200,360. >> 200,360. >> yeah. there was loads of that by the way. right no, no. go on. no uni jack carson. >> it's got to be natalie elphicke. i mean, she's a bit of an idiot, although she's not here to defend herself. so i'll say sorry, natalie, but come on. what are you doing? she's joining. she should have gone to reform. if these are her politics. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> doesn't make any sense. go on. bill. >> moeen ali. the green candidate elected in leeds last

week who cried. this is for gaza. if you look at what he's actually said, you know, immediately after the october the 7th attacks, saying the palestinians have the right to fight back. his is the type of extreme ism that, you know, really keep it out of, keep it out of the labour party. >> all right. today's winner of the union jackass. natalie elphicke. there we go. right. thank you, thank you, thank you. great show this. thank you all for watching. and i've got something special coming your way at 9 pm. tomorrow. so i'll see you then. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's been another dry and fine day for many of us, and there'll be more in the way of sunshine to come tomorrow. and it should be a warmer day for most of us. however, cloudier skies are starting to approach the northwest as this weather front moves in. won't make too much progress overnight. further elsewhere across the country as high pressure is building in, so it should be a fairly clear and dry night for the bulk of england and wales. cloudier

skies will affect parts of northern england, northern ireland and in particular much of scotland, where the rain will turn quite persistent across the northwest overnight. so quite a damp night to come. probably a damp night to come. probably a damp start to the day, but elsewhere it should be a bright and mild start to the day quite widely. temperatures will be in double digits by thursday morning. any mr mist and fog that has formed overnight should clear quite readily. it's most likely across coastal areas across england and wales, and that will give way to another day of long lived sunny spells. and it's going to feel warmer in that sunshine than today. and the sunshine should spread up and further north into northwestern areas of scotland as that weather front pushes north. highs of 2223, possibly 24 degrees across central areas of england on thursday . again, of england on thursday. again, there's a risk of mist and fog to start the day on friday. the sunshine could be a bit hazy first thing, but it should brighten up quite quickly through the day and i think most areas will see a day of long lived sunny spells. and once again, it's going to be feeling fairly warm. long live sunshine to come on saturday. a risk of

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news. i'm sam francis. the headunes news. i'm sam francis. the headlines at exactly 11:00. another of rishi sunaks mps has defected to labour today. the second in under two weeks. natalie elphicke announced her decision in just two minutes before prime minister's questions this afternoon. the dover mp said rishi sunaks government is chaotic and claimed that labour has changed. dan poulter made the same switch less than a fortnight ago over the government's handling of the nhs. however, downing street has brushed off questions about whether the prime minister is concerned , reaffirming that concerned, reaffirming that rishi sunak is focused on the priorities of the british people. two men have been arrested and hundreds have been evacuated after a bomb squad was deployed to a village in south yorkshire . police say their yorkshire. police say their focus of the operation is a disused church building and adjoining house in grimethorpe. after the discovery of a number of suspicious items there, emergency services and explosives truck and an army robot remain at the scene tonight. roads within a 60 metre cordon are also still closed, with members of the public being

asked to avoid