and yet i once brought that up at a at an event at stanford. we were discussing the wage gap and. somehow i brought up the advantages of having a stable families and an and what price women pay, trying to raise children by themselves, a partner without a husband. and people were just horrified that i was suggesting that that could be anything with which any bad effects of having raising children without a father. well, it just turns out us this is a tragedy for everyone, but especially for the boys. so i don't consider it a aspiration. and in fact, if you look at liberal upper class liberals, that's they live. they're the stable marriages in the world. and them for their children. but when they come to writing the sociology for everyone else. they're celebrating, you know, alternative arrangements arrangements. well, unfortunately, we do have to end there we've only scratched the surface, but thank you all for coming for this robust conversation and. thank our panelists very much for their remarks.